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The discussion revolves around the implications of poor math grades on graduate school admissions in biophysics, particularly in the context of a strong physics background. Participants explore the balance between taking foundational math courses and pursuing more advanced, proof-based mathematics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant highlights their strong performance in physics courses and a perfect physics GRE score but expresses concern over a low math GPA (2.25) due to opting for proof-based courses instead of foundational math.
  • Another participant argues that a solid foundation in math is essential for success in physics, suggesting that neglecting basic math could lead to issues in understanding physical theories.
  • A participant questions whether it would be more beneficial to take practical math courses they are confident in, rather than more abstract proof-based courses, which they find challenging.
  • Another suggestion is made to take practical math courses to maintain a strong GPA while also considering explaining the choice of proof-based courses in the application to demonstrate an attempt to challenge oneself.
  • Participants discuss the importance of consulting an academic advisor for tailored advice on course selection and addressing concerns about math grades in applications.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether to prioritize foundational math courses or to continue with advanced proof-based courses. There is no consensus on the best approach to take regarding course selection and its impact on graduate school admissions.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the challenges of transitioning from physics to math proofs, noting that minor details in notation can lead to difficulties. There is also an implied concern about the potential perception of GPA buffering in applications.

Who May Find This Useful

Students considering graduate programs in biophysics or related fields, particularly those with concerns about their math background and its impact on admissions.

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So here's the deal: I have nearly all As in my physics courses (this includes As in the following graduate courses: mechanics, em w/ jackson, quantum 1, quantum 2, Biophysics, Stat Mech, and Adv Stat Mech. I go to an Ivy league school with a what most would consider to be a competitive undergrad and graduate physics department / program. AND I have a perfect physics gre score. Additionally (if it matters), I've taken and received As in 12 different bio classes mostly upper division / grad level.

BUT! I skipped out of all the computational math (calc, diff eq, linear algebra, and stats) to take harder proof based courses (single var analysis (C), complex analysis (C), algebra (C), and grad math methods (B)). I did poorly in these: my math gpa is a 2.25. I'm just not cut out for those types of classes - if I use it in a physics context, I can readily apply it even the abstract concepts (Group theory etc).

Am I screwed for getting into a biophysics grad school/program? I have one year left - should I just eat the bullet and take the earlier math courses where I know I'll get an A in (I'm afraid this might be frowned upon as gpa buffering)? Does my unusually difficult and extensive physics background innately show that I can do the math that will be required of me? If you were me what would you do to minimize the impact this will have on admissions? Additionally for professors who are writing my recs, how should I broach the subject with them about my bad math gpa before they see my cv - as its very discordant with their image of me?
 
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Forget the GPA buffering and do it because you need it. You really need a solid foundation in math in general not just in a physics context to do well in physics. Physicists sometimes play fast and loose with the math leaving it to the mathematician to make it sound and bulletproof. A physical theory based on some shaky math premise won't stand for long.
 
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So I should take linear algebra, diff eq, etc. even though I already know the material?

Would it be better to take things like combinatorial topology and graph theory - as these are used in molecular biophysics and computational biophysics respectively? The only downside to this is that both of these classes are proof based, and I'm genuinely worried I won't be able to get an A in them. I seem to have no problem with physics "proofs" but when it comes to math "proofs" it seems like I miss minor details in notation that bite me and/or the topic is purely theoretical/abstract and I can't wrap my head around it.
 
I'd take the practical Math courses that you know you'll get a A in. With a great GRE and Physics scores take those to keep your GPA up. You could provide a note in your application that the proof-based math courses were an attempt to extend your self but that the practical courses needed for physics shows that you have skills in math.

You should talk to your academic advisor about your concerns as they may have a better plan of action. In any event, the advisor's advice will probably include taking those courses you will do well in as they also support your physics work.
 

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