Will multi-core processors reach their limit with Intel's new Ivy Bridge?

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The discussion revolves around the potential limits of multi-core processors, specifically in relation to Intel's new Ivy Bridge architecture. Participants explore the implications of core counts, architectural changes, and the future of CPU performance in various applications.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the authenticity of an alleged die shot of the Ivy Bridge processor.
  • There is a consensus among some that Ivy Bridge is primarily a shrink of the Sandy Bridge architecture from 32nm to 22nm.
  • Others express uncertainty about whether Ivy Bridge represents an entirely new micro-architecture, raising questions about the roles of Haswell and Rockwell.
  • One participant suggests that the industry may be reaching a limit similar to the pre-dual core era, where increasing clock speeds became unsustainable.
  • Concerns are raised about the practical utility of 16-core processors, with some arguing that most applications, like PC games, may not effectively utilize such power.
  • Another participant notes that tasks such as HD video encoding and CAD could benefit from high core counts, but emphasizes the growing role of GPUs in handling computational tasks.

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Participants express differing views on the nature of the Ivy Bridge architecture and the future of multi-core processors. There is no clear consensus on whether the industry is approaching a performance limit or how effectively higher core counts will be utilized in practical applications.

Contextual Notes

Some participants rely on assumptions about the capabilities of future architectures and the applicability of multi-core designs in various fields, which remain unresolved.

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I think it's a little early for a die shot of the 8-16 core Intel "Ivy Bridge" processor, but this is an alleged photo.

IvyBridge.jpg


Is it real?
 
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Whats the source of the image?
 
KrisOhn said:
Whats the source of the image?

http://mtmcv.com/intel-plans-new-factory-in-the-u-s-the-modernization-of-other-22nm-tech/
 
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All the Ivy Bridge is, is a shrinking of the Sandy Bridge architecture. This seems legit, other sources are saying the same thing, so yeah, Ivy Bridge is happening.

Whether that is a legitimate picture of the new die, I couldn't tell you.
 
KrisOhn said:
All the Ivy Bridge is, is a shrinking of the Sandy Bridge architecture. This seems legit, other sources are saying the same thing, so yeah, Ivy Bridge is happening.

Whether that is a legitimate picture of the new die, I couldn't tell you.

I thought the Ivy Bridge was an entirely new micro-architecture.

What about Haswell and Rockwell?
 
Ivy Bridge is just a shrink of Sandy Bridge. From 32nm to 22nm.

Haswell and Rockwell should be entirely new architecture.
 
KrisOhn said:
Ivy Bridge is just a shrink of Sandy Bridge. From 32nm to 22nm.

Haswell and Rockwell should be entirely new architecture.

When will we see 16-core chips?
 
Hopefully never.

I feel the industry is coming up against another wall just like they did in the pre-dual core era, when they were just trying to get chips to run higher and higher clock speeds to get them faster, they were coming up against a limit of how far they could push the chips. Now they're just shoving more and more cores onto the chips to get them faster... we need another break like we had when the dual cores came out.

Edit: wooo, post 100.
 
KrisOhn said:
Hopefully never.

I feel the industry is coming up against another wall just like they did in the pre-dual core era, when they were just trying to get chips to run higher and higher clock speeds to get them faster, they were coming up against a limit of how far they could push the chips. Now they're just shoving more and more cores onto the chips to get them faster... we need another break like we had when the dual cores came out.

Edit: wooo, post 100.

I don't see how things like PC games could utilize the power of 16 cores/32 threads. The only thing which would really benefit from that much CPU horsepower are things like HD video encoding and CAD.

With Nvidia "CUDA" CPU tasks are being handed to the computationally superior GPU. The difference in speed is like day and night. Most high-end GPU's have teraflop (trillions of calculations per second) computing power. CPU's don't have TFLOP power, yet.
 

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