Will Star Trek Teleportation ever be possible?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of teleportation as depicted in Star Trek and other science fiction media. Participants explore various theoretical models, implications, and the nature of teleportation, including its potential physical limitations and philosophical questions regarding identity and replication.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that teleportation, as portrayed in Star Trek, would violate the Heisenberg uncertainty principle and is therefore not possible according to currently understood physics.
  • Others propose that teleportation could be categorized into mass energy conversion types or wormholes, with significant challenges associated with both methods.
  • Several participants express concerns about the implications of teleportation, suggesting that it would involve obliteration of the original and creation of a copy elsewhere, raising questions about identity and consciousness.
  • Some participants reference fictional portrayals of teleportation, such as in "The Prestige," to illustrate different conceptualizations of the technology.
  • There is a discussion about the inconsistency in how teleportation is depicted across different Star Trek series and movies, with some noting that different writers treat the mechanics of teleportation differently.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the feasibility and implications of teleportation, with multiple competing views regarding its theoretical underpinnings and the nature of the process itself. No consensus is reached on whether teleportation could ever be realized or what its consequences would be.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the definitions and mechanics of teleportation, particularly in relation to identity and the replication of consciousness. There are also references to fictional narratives that complicate the discussion of teleportation's feasibility.

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Will teleportation, like in Star Trek or many sci-fi movies, where people disappear with a puff of smoke, ever be possible in the real world. Will we ever be able to build something that can do this, and what would it be like?
 
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TheQuestionGuy14 said:
Will teleportation, like in Star Trek or many sci-fi movies, where people disappear with a puff of smoke, ever be possible in the real world. Will we ever be able to build something that can do this, and what would it be like?
no, not according to currently understood physics.
 
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No.
Teleporters come in either mass energy conversion types or wormholes.
The Star Trek teleporters are the former type, and would violate the Heisenberg uncertainty principle.
The latter, would require being able to control gravity and negative matter.
 
TheQuestionGuy14 said:
Will teleportation, like in Star Trek or many sci-fi movies, where people disappear with a puff of smoke, ever be possible in the real world. Will we ever be able to build something that can do this, and what would it be like?
The year is 1500. Person A asks, "Will ocean travel ever get to the point where we can cross the Atlantic in less than three months?" Person B replies, "Of course not, it's physically impossible to create a sail big enough to gather the necessary amount of wind."
 
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No, not for me, the teleporter would obliterate me and create a copy somewhere else.
 
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cobalt124 said:
No, not for me, the teleporter would obliterate me and create a copy somewhere else.
No, that's not how the Star Trek teleportation works. It uses magic to transport, not replicate.
 
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cobalt124 said:
the teleporter would obliterate me and create a copy somewhere else.

This was solved in the Dark Matter universe, where FTL travel is accomplished by sending ones DNA code FTL to the body printer that makes a copy, the copy does stuff, returns to the body printer, is dissolved and its delta-memories are put back in ones mind at FTL speeds. The copy is ok to return to the printer for being rendered into memories (as best I can figure anyway, this part is a bit weak imo) is because they know they are unstable and will dissolve in 2-3 days in any case. The aspect of the copies not feeling any sense if individual self-worth is not really examined in the series, its sort of axiomatic that they don't mind if they die.
 
phinds said:
No, that's not how the Star Trek teleportation works. It uses magic to transport, not replicate.

As with all things Star Trek different writers treat the setting differently. When it comes to the transporter it definitively moves the same matter...until it doesn't.

 
Ryan_m_b said:
As with all things Star Trek different writers treat the setting differently. When it comes to the transporter it definitively moves the same matter...until it doesn't.


Well, I stopped watching after the original series so was not aware of that. I've seen the recent movies and they do it the same way as the original series.
 
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phinds said:
No, that's not how the Star Trek teleportation works. It uses magic to transport, not replicate.

Don't trust the magic either. Look what happened to Harry Potter because he couldn't pronounce Diagon Alley.
 
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cobalt124 said:
No, not for me, the teleporter would obliterate me and create a copy somewhere else.
The teleporter in the movie "The Prestige", made copies of the original, without obliteration.
 
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rcgldr said:
The teleporter in the movie "The Prestige", made copies of the original, without obliteration.

That wouldn't be a problem as long as I didn't meet myself.
 
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phinds said:
Well, I stopped watching after the original series so was not aware of that.

Kirk was also doubled by the transporter in "The Enemy Within". That wouldn't work with the same matter.
 

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