Will the Arctic Cold Front Cause Severe Weather and Damage to Crops?

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The discussion centers around varying winter weather experiences across different regions. An Arctic cold front is expected to bring severe conditions, including strong winds and potential blizzard-like conditions, leading to dangerously low wind chills in some areas. Participants share personal weather updates, with some experiencing significant snowfall while others report mild conditions. Notably, areas in the Midwest and parts of the UK are facing heavy snow, while regions like Western Washington and parts of Florida are seeing typical winter temperatures without snow. Concerns about the impact of cold weather on crops, infrastructure challenges in handling snow, and personal anecdotes about coping with the cold are prevalent. The conversation also touches on the contrasting experiences of those in warmer climates, highlighting the diverse impacts of winter weather across the globe.
  • #651
dlgoff said:
You're not in Kansas anymore. Oh wait. Maybe you are.
Sure felt like it yesterday, dlg! Calm and cool this morning, though my garden looks a bit forlorn. I have all the rows hilled up, so even though the garden is in a low spot comparatively, the raised rows should be able to dry up in the next day or so. I am really glad that I resisted the urge to mulch more of the garden. I keep my garlic mulched with oat straw so that the cloves are sheltered and protected from temperature extremes throughout the winter, but that's the only mulch in the garden. My neighbor mulches everything but corn, and because of this stretch of wet weather, he lost about all his cauliflower, broccoli, and cabbage to slugs and had to start more plants in his greenhouse. Slugs thrive under wet straw mulch!
 
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  • #652
turbo-1 said:
My neighbor mulches everything but corn, and because of this stretch of wet weather, he lost about all his cauliflower, broccoli, and cabbage to slugs :eek: and had to start more plants in his greenhouse. Slugs thrive under wet straw mulch!

Sprinkle a bit of table salt on them, dessicates them, and they shrivel up like the wicked witch of the west.

Rhody...
 
  • #653
Well, I visited a nearby neighbor a while ago (I took Duke down to his place on the ATV for some exercise). It's only a few hundred yards from here, and I knew some of those lightning strikes last night were close, but not THAT close. His Ford Ranger was parked in the driveway, and got nailed. The lightning burnt off the hood-mounted CB antenna, scorched the paint, and traveled through the chassis to ground, where it ripped a 5'-long trench in his gravel drive. The alternator is fried, and who knows what else. Unfortunately, he is most recently from western Mass, and his insurance company is just a little bit busy because of the Springfield-area tornadoes. This is the second pickup truck of his that has been damaged by a lightning strike - the last was a decade or so ago in Mass. He and his wife are going to Hollywood Slots tonight to gamble - maybe he's used up all of his bad luck for a day or two, and will have a good time.
 
  • #654
turbo-1 said:
Well, I visited a nearby neighbor a while ago (I took Duke down to his place on the ATV for some exercise). It's only a few hundred yards from here, and I knew some of those lightning strikes last night were close, but not THAT close. His Ford Ranger was parked in the driveway, and got nailed. The lightning burnt off the hood-mounted CB antenna, scorched the paint, and traveled through the chassis to ground, where it ripped a 5'-long trench in his gravel drive. The alternator is fried, and who knows what else. Unfortunately, he is most recently from western Mass, and his insurance company is just a little bit busy because of the Springfield-area tornadoes. This is the second pickup truck of his that has been damaged by a lightning strike - the last was a decade or so ago in Mass. He and his wife are going to Hollywood Slots tonight to gamble - maybe he's used up all of his bad luck for a day or two, and will have a good time.
Good grief. I haven't been attacked by lightning since I moved out of the pit of doom. Four times there (on the house), remember a few more in the yard. The last time was the most damaging.
 
  • #655
Evo said:
Good grief. I haven't been attacked by lightning since I moved out of the pit of doom. Four times there (on the house), remember a few more in the yard. The last time was the most damaging.
His house and driveway are underlain by solid ledge - perfect ground for strikes. At least the lightning didn't take out his submersible well-pump. I lost one to a lightning strike decades ago when my wife and I were living in a ratty house-trailer saving up money for a decent down-payment. That really sucked because it's pretty hard to prove to your insurance company that your $$$ well-pump died due to a lightning strike, and I had to buy one out-of-pocket.

BTW, how did you manage to force yourself to stay in a house that had been targeted four times? I would have looked elsewhere.
 
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  • #656
We got through the tornado warnings with no direct hits, but people in the next town to the west weren't as lucky. There were no fatalities, but there was a lot of damage, including to houses, outbuildings and vehicles. A tanker truck was tossed into a ditch on its side, despite having a full tank of sewage from pumping out septic tanks. A utility pole, power lines and trees were on the truck, trapping the driver inside until power could be shut off so the rescue crews could get him out.

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  • #657
turbo-1 said:
BTW, how did you manage to force yourself to stay in a house that had been targeted four times? I would have looked elsewhere.
Same reason I didn't move after the floodings and the baseball size hailstorm. Not sure where around here I'd be safer.
 
  • #658
Evo said:
Same reason I didn't move after the floodings and the baseball size hailstorm. Not sure where around here I'd be safer.

Yep. Ain't Kansas hell?
 
  • #659
dlgoff said:
Yep. Ain't Kansas hell?

...there's no place like home...
 
  • #660
WhoWee said:
...there's no place like home...

Since I've lived in Kansas, I've seen houses floating down the Kansas river and also flying through the air. I'm just glad I still have a home. :biggrin:
 
  • #661
dlgoff said:
Since I've lived in Kansas, I've seen houses floating down the Kansas river and also flying through the air. I'm just glad I still have a home. :biggrin:

I used to visit KC quite often. One one trip (circa 1982 or 83) we drove through an area where flood waters had just receded - I saw cars stuck in trees about 30' off the ground.
 
  • #662
WhoWee said:
I used to visit KC quite often. One one trip (circa 1982 or 83) we drove through an area where flood waters had just receded - I saw cars stuck in trees about 30' off the ground.
That must have been one hell of a flood-surge!
 
  • #663
turbo-1 said:
That must have been one hell of a flood-surge!

It was in a small valley - the mud was near the tops of the trees.
 
  • #664
WhoWee said:
It was in a small valley - the mud was near the tops of the trees.
Most of the larger rivers and streams around here have hydro-dams on them, and they are managed for flood-control as well as for electrical power. I just checked and Kansas has exactly one hydro-dam - the Bowersock, on the Kansas river, which drops less than 2'/mile. Not much of a head to exploit for power.
 
  • #665
turbo-1 said:
Most of the larger rivers and streams around here have hydro-dams on them, and they are managed for flood-control as well as for electrical power. I just checked and Kansas has exactly one hydro-dam - the Bowersock, on the Kansas river, which drops less than 2'/mile. Not much of a head to exploit for power.

Yep. But they are building a new one on the other side of the river right now, which is just north of 6th street. But back when I was a kid, this is what 6th street looked like during the flood that is impressed in my mind.

[PLAIN]http://ks.water.usgs.gov/waterwatch/flood/ljw_21.jpg

http://ks.water.usgs.gov/waterwatch/flood/fld51.photos.html"
 
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  • #666
dlgoff said:
...they are building a new one on the other side of the river right now...

The Bowersock Mills & Power Co. has broken ground on a 4.6-MW expansion that will nearly triple capacity at the Bowersock hydropower project.

http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/article/2011/05/groundbreaking-celebrates-expansion-of-2-45-mw-bowersock-small-hydro-project"
 
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  • #667
4 p.m. and already two thunderstorms passed over our house. Neither too heavy, still, two of them in 3 hours.
 
  • #668
Lucky, no T-storm here in years
 
  • #669
WhoWee said:
I used to visit KC quite often. One one trip (circa 1982 or 83) we drove through an area where flood waters had just receded - I saw cars stuck in trees about 30' off the ground.

turbo-1 said:
That must have been one hell of a flood-surge!
It was when I moved here in 1993, everything was under water. I arrived a few days after the flooding started to subside and the realtor was pointing out homes where the rooftops were still a couple of feet under water.

I had just lived through - The Storm of the Century, also known as the ’93 Superstorm, or the (Great) Blizzard of 1993

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Mississippi_and_Missouri_Rivers_Flood_of_1993

And then in August, we moved to Kansas for this. The Great Mississippi and Missouri Rivers Flood of 1993 (or "Great Flood of 1993")

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Mississippi_and_Missouri_Rivers_Flood_of_1993
 
  • #670
Now 8 inches of snow in Hawaii according to state rangers.

http://news.yahoo.com/video/honolulu-kitv-18211460/mauna-kea-sees-snow-in-the-summer-25477501
 
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  • #671
What is it with the weather services inability to forecast weather for the next 30 minutes?

This has been going on forever. Today, for example, this morning we were going to have severe storms all day. By 8 am, no storms sunny and clear, with storms at 5pm. At 3pm, no storms until 3am tomorrow.

Now, meteorologists have said that the public has reported devastating storms with 60 mph winds and golfball size hail. They're shocked, they were all in the break room eating microwave popcorn and watching the Bachlorette and had no idea what was happening with the weather outside. Geeze, if only one of them had thought to look out the window...
 
  • #672
Evo said:
What is it with the weather services inability to forecast weather for the next 30 minutes?

This has been going on forever. Today, for example, this morning we were going to have severe storms all day. By 8 am, no storms sunny and clear, with storms at 5pm. At 3pm, no storms until 3am tomorrow.

Now, meteorologists have said that the public has reported devastating storms with 60 mph winds and golfball size hail. They're shocked, they were all in the break room eating microwave popcorn and watching the Bachlorette and had no idea what was happening with the weather outside. Geeze, if only one of them had thought to look out the window...

Hold on to your hat Evo. If they have it right (?) we are going to be in for a treat tonight. Hail, tornadoes,...
 
  • #673
dlgoff said:
Hold on to your hat Evo. If they have it right (?) we are going to be in for a treat tonight. Hail, tornadoes,...

Evo,

Let's hope the weatherman is wrong, for your sake.

Rhody... (sending hook echo cloud blaster, and hail melter, Evo's way) :biggrin:
 
  • #674
dlgoff said:
Hold on to your hat Evo. If they have it right (?) we are going to be in for a treat tonight. Hail, tornadoes,...

They were wrong again. Let's hope they are wrong again for tonight.

You think they were wrong due to the "rhody effect"?
 
  • #675
dlgoff said:
They were wrong again. Let's hope they are wrong again for tonight.

You think they were wrong due to the "rhody effect"?

My NOAA radio just indicated a wind advisory is in effect . Okay rhody, time for your magic.
 
  • #676
Look what's almost here.

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  • #677
WHOA! Don, you and Evo had better hang on - yikes!
 
  • #678
Yep, it's going to be quite a night.
 
  • #679
So, how did the Kansans fare last night?
 
  • #680
turbo-1 said:
So, how did the Kansans fare last night?

The storm line fell apart just as it was getting to me. Lots of good lightning and a nice rain, but no big winds or hail. For me at least.
 
  • #681
turbo-1 said:
So, how did the Kansans fare last night?

Neighbors didn't fare so well.
http://news.yahoo.com/video/us-15749625/fierce-tornados-caught-on-tape-in-midwest-25695965
 
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  • #682
Astronuc said:
Neighbors didn't fare so well.
http://news.yahoo.com/video/us-15749625/fierce-tornados-caught-on-tape-in-midwest-25695965

Isn't the midwest weather cool? There's a saying in Kansas. "If you don't like the weather, just wait until tomorrow". We seem to have everything here. Very cold then very hot, very wet then very dry, snow and ice, wind and hail. It's a never ending discontinuous weather function.
 
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  • #683
At least you and Evo are fine, Don. I worry about Evo not having a decent tornado shelter.
 
  • #684
turbo-1 said:
At least you and Evo are fine, Don. I worry about Evo not having a decent tornado shelter.

You don't care about me? I live in a dang mobile home on a hill top. :cry:

Too many wives and kids to build my underground house now. :redface:

Anyway, I know when it's time to get the heck out since I can see for miles in any direction.
 
  • #685
She even doesn't have hail proof windows.
 
  • #686
dlgoff said:
You don't care about me? I live in a dang mobile home on a hill top. :cry:

Too many wives and kids to build my underground house now. :redface:

Anyway, I know when it's time to get the heck out since I can see for miles in any direction.
Sorry! I imagined you had an old Kansas farm-house. I wouldn't wish a trailer in tornado alley on my worst enemy!

(Well, there's one guy...)
 
  • #687
turbo-1 said:
Sorry! I imagined you had an old Kansas farm-house. I wouldn't wish a trailer in tornado alley on my worst enemy!

(Well, there's one guy...)


Thanks turbo. I got somebody to feel sorry for me. :biggrin:

I been here for about 30 years and bailed out several times. The only time I had a problem with tornadoes was when I drove to Lawrence to get away from a approaching storm only to get nailed by one under the I70 bridge in North Lawrence. I'll never go under an overpass again.
 
  • #688
dlgoff said:
Thanks turbo. I got somebody to feel sorry for me. :biggrin:

I been here for about 30 years and bailed out several times. The only time I had a problem with tornadoes was when I drove to Lawrence to get away from a approaching storm only to get nailed by one under the I70 bridge in North Lawrence. I'll never go under an overpass again.
I spent a couple of weeks in late July-early August in central Alabama troubleshooting the automation of 2 power-boilers two years in a row. The storms were intense, and the office-trailers were bound with heavy steel straps anchored to huge buried concrete weights. Still, storms could be "interesting".
 
  • #689
July 2nd and just 55 F You call it a summer?
 
  • #690
59 deg F here, but it's only 5 am. It should hit 85 or so today. Hopefully the humidity isn't as brutal as it was earlier this week. The garden is picking up, but I'm not. It's very hard to breathe in this "swamp" if you have respiratory problems.
 
  • #691
59 deg F as well, but it is already 2 p.m. Cold, dark and gloomy day, with occasional drizzle.
 
  • #692
It is a delightful 64 F (18 C) here this morning. It might reach mid 80s (27-29 C) this afternoon. The blueberries are ripening.
 
  • #693
My neighbor and I went to the Fedco tree sale last spring and he went in and bought me 4 open-pollinating blueberry bushes, so I didn't have to dodge all the patchouli-people. He had a grin on his face when he came back out. It seems that they had one bush left of a variety called Duke, so he bought one. The bushes are setting on berries quite well this year, and Duke is twice as tall as the other 3.
 
  • #694
It is snowing in Tatra mountains
 
  • #695
Borek I hope that you escaped out of Poland for your holiday

not so nice
 
  • #696
Yay, Fall is here! A Canadian coldfront is pushing in tonight and the forecast for the next 10 days is highs in the low 70's and low's in the low-mid 50's! WOOT!

DL, does Roger have her flannel nighties?
 
  • #697
-40 is coming soon here!
 
  • #698
It's 100° F here (KY) but come Monday it will drop to the lower/mid 70s.
 
  • #699
Evo said:
DL, does Roger have her flannel nighties?
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  • #700
dlgoff said:
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AWWWW, you're such a good daddy!
 

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