Will the Cars Meet During the Chase?

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The problem involves a scenario where a thief accelerates away from a police officer in a car chase, starting with a distance of 100 meters between them. The thief accelerates at 5.0 m/s² from rest, while the police officer travels at a constant maximum speed of 30 m/s. The original poster seeks to determine if the police officer can ever catch up to the thief and expresses confusion regarding the results obtained from their calculations.

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  • The original poster attempts to set up equations for the distances traveled by both the thief and the police officer, leading to a quadratic equation. They express uncertainty about the results, particularly regarding the time values obtained and the distances at those times.
  • Some participants question the calculations related to the quadratic equation, specifically the discriminant, and suggest checking the results for accuracy.
  • There is discussion about the implications of a negative discriminant and its relation to the nature of the roots of the quadratic equation.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's calculations, offering suggestions to verify the quadratic formula application and discussing the meaning of the discriminant. There is a recognition of the potential for complex roots, and participants are exploring the implications of these findings without reaching a consensus on the overall problem.

Contextual Notes

The original poster indicates a desire for thorough understanding due to the importance of the assignment for their academic goals, which adds a layer of urgency to the discussion. There is also mention of a malfunctioning calculator that may be affecting the results.

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Homework Statement


There is a speedy car chase! A thief is getting away from a police officer. The distance between them at the start is 100m. The thief starts to accelerate at 5.0m/s^2 [F] from rest. Meanwhile the police is chasing him at its max velocity of 30m/s (sad... I know XD). Show that the police officer NEVER CATCHES UP to the thief.

Please take a gander at section 3 and answer this:

i) First off, is my solution correct?

ii) Ok... this seems to be the correct solution because they are NOT supposed to meet-up/collide during the car chase at all, because subbing in 6s into both equations gives 90m and 80m, but how can the quad formula say that at 6s they do meet (why do we get this mathematical inconsistency?)?

iii)Or did I just do It wrong? Please explain this in more depth if you want, or just show me how to solve it, this is kind of a bonus question and I need ALL the marks I can to get into software engineering, please help!

~Thanks

P.S. I will watch this thread inthe next little while, and in 10 hours plus a constant span of 75min (my period 1 spare) [i'm also interested in question 2)ii) quite a bit].

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So since the officer stars 100 meters behind I got: d=t*30-100
and for the thief I got: d= v*t+0.5*a*t^2 which becomes d=2.5*t^2 because thief starts at rest

Then I make these two equations equal to each other: t*30-100=2.5*t^2 and I make it equal to 0;
thus 0=2.5*t^2-30t+100 and when I apply the quadratics formula I get i2 seconds and 6 seconds.

Now when I sub 2s into the officers displacement equation I get: d(6s)=(6)*30-100= 80m
and, for the thief I get: d(6s)=2.5(6)^2= 90m

I get a mathematical inconsistency and that satisfies the question.
 
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I think you need to check your quadratic equation again. What did you get for the discriminant?
 
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gneill said:
I think you need to check your quadratic equation again. What did you get for the discriminant?
Ohh, I'm using a SHARP calculator that can use Quad formula by plugging in A,B,C of quadratic equation (it's never given me a wrong answer before), when I plug in 2.5 -30 and 100 I get i2 and what appears to be 6 (my screen is broken, but I can assure you it is a 6). When I Try my own quad formula I get the discriminant of (-100) -> (B)^2 - 4(A)(C) right? (-30)^2 -4(2.5)(100) = 900-1000 = -100

Any ideas why my calc is giving me a real integer?
 
ujellytek said:
Ohh, I'm using a SHARP calculator that can use Quad formula by plugging in A,B,C of quadratic equation (it's never given me a wrong answer before), when I plug in 2.5 -30 and 100 I get i2 and what appears to be 6 (my screen is broken, but I can assure you it is a 6). When I Try my own quad formula I get the discriminant of (-100) -> (B)^2 - 4(A)(C) right? (-30)^2 -4(2.5)(100) = 900-1000 = -100
Right. What does it mean when the discriminant is negative?
Any ideas why my calc is giving me a real integer?
Yes, it didn't :smile: It gave you one complex result: (6 + 2i), not 6 and 2i. There's probably another root accessible through some manipulation of the calculator's registers.
 
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gneill said:
Right. What does it mean when the discriminant is negative?

Yes, it didn't :smile: It gave you one complex result: (6 + 2i), not 6 and 2i. There's probably another root accessible through some manipulation of the calculator's registers.
Ahh, that makes a lot of sense, my calc shows X1=6, which is probably 6+ some bugged value, and X2=i2 which is probably 6(which is bugged out) +i2, thanks a lot!
 

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