Will the rope break when the man swings?

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The problem involves a man swinging from a rope, with specific parameters including the length of the rope, his mass, and his speed at the bottom of the swing. The maximum tension the rope can withstand is also provided, raising the question of whether the rope will break during the swing.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the centripetal force and questions how to incorporate the weight of the man into the overall tension in the rope. Some participants discuss the relationship between centripetal force, tension, and weight at the bottom of the swing.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring various aspects of the problem, including the necessary calculations and relationships between forces. Some guidance has been offered regarding the equations that relate tension, centripetal force, and weight, but there is no explicit consensus on the final outcome.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the maximum tension the rope can handle and the need to convert units from feet to meters. The discussion includes uncertainty about how to properly account for all forces acting on the man at the bottom of the swing.

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Homework Statement



a man swings from a rope which is 10 feet long. his mass is 80 kg and at the bottom of his swing, he is going 8 m/s. The max tension the rope can take without breaking is 2000 N. Does he make it?

Homework Equations



Fc = mv^2/r

The Attempt at a Solution



first i had to convert the feet to meters (3.05m). then i think the way to solve it is to first figure out the centripetal force generated by swinging - this would be (80 kg)(8)^2/(3.05 m) = 1678 N.

does this mean he's ok because the tension in the string doesn't exceed the 2000 N limit or do I need to include his weight in the problem?
 
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You already have his weight in the problem with 80kg
 
i konw but how do i put it into the calculations? so far all i figured out was the centripetal force?

how does the centripetal force, tension and his weight relate to each other at the bottom (when he's going 8 m/s)?
 
anyone?
 
another bump - still confused.

at the bottom of his swing, how does the centripetal force, tension force and his weight relate to each other?

i know weight points up and centripetal force points towards the middle (therefore up), but tension? i think it points up as well so would the equation be:

T + Fc - W = ma?
 
10 feet = 3.05m
and T_{max}=2000N

At the bottom;
\frac{mv^2}{{r}} = F_{T} - mg
hence
F_{T} = \frac{mv^2}{{r}} + mg

(If you need more clarification; http://dev.physicslab.org/Document.aspx?doctype=3&filename=OscillatoryMotion_VerticalCircles.xml)

Now you have your mass, radius and velocity given to you.
Using this equation, you should be able to simply plug the values in and get something in the league of 2.46x10^3 N

This is more than the maximum tension of 2000N, meaning that the rope will collapse.

Hope this helps
Steven
 

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