Will we ever get to the center of the earth?

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of reaching the center of the Earth, examining the challenges posed by extreme heat, pressure, and rock density. Participants explore theoretical implications and practical limitations related to drilling technology and the physical conditions at the Earth's core.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant theorizes that the center of the Earth is dense and molten due to high particle movement, suggesting that machines would struggle to drill through the dense rock.
  • Another participant argues that the density of rock at the core should be similar to that on the surface, citing that rock is not compressible like air and suggesting that machine design should focus on heat resistance.
  • One reply emphasizes that while rock is not compressible, it is still compressible to some extent, and estimates the center's density at 13 g/cm², noting that pressure at the center reaches approximately 3.5 million atmospheres.
  • Another participant provides specific pressure and temperature estimates for the center of the Earth, discussing the implications for materials like graphite and hafnium carbide under such conditions.
  • A participant reiterates the initial theory about the center being molten but under high pressure, leading to a solid state despite the heat.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about ever reaching the center, citing concerns about machine integrity under pressure and the potential for human safety without a cooling system.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of rock density and pressure, with no consensus on the feasibility of reaching the center of the Earth or the effectiveness of potential drilling technologies.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various physical properties and conditions, but there are unresolved assumptions regarding the behavior of materials under extreme conditions and the specifics of drilling technology capabilities.

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ok so here's my theory. i know that the center of the Earth is the most dense spot on the planet, ant that is why it is "molten lava" because the particles are moving so fast. So even if we had machines that could withstand the heat, wouldn't we not have a machine powerful enough that is capable of drilling through the rock because it is so incredibly dense?
 
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I doubt the density of the rock would have much to do with it. Rock of itentical make-up at the core should be similar in density to rock on the surface. For example, 33 feet below the surface of the ocean, pressures are 2x surface pressures. But if you skin dive down to the bottom, pick up a rock, bring it to the surface and measure it, it's density would be virtually indistinguishible from a surface rock. Rock is not compressable like air.

Also, as you get deeper, gravity gets less. This may cause less pressure.

Design your machine for heat.
 
tony873004 said:
I doubt the density of the rock would have much to do with it. Rock of itentical make-up at the core should be similar in density to rock on the surface. For example, 33 feet below the surface of the ocean, pressures are 2x surface pressures. But if you skin dive down to the bottom, pick up a rock, bring it to the surface and measure it, it's density would be virtually indistinguishible from a surface rock. Rock is not compressable like air.

Also, as you get deeper, gravity gets less. This may cause less pressure.

Design your machine for heat.

While rock is not as compressable as air, it is compressable. Estimates place the density of the center of the Earth at 13 g/cm^2, over six times that of the crust.

The biggest problem would be pressure, at 3.5 million atmos. It doesn't matter that the local gravity decreases with depth, you still have all the weight of the rock above you pressing down on you.
 
tony873004 said:
Also, as you get deeper, gravity gets less. This may cause less pressure.

The pressure increases as one travels toward the center of a planet, because gravity is pulling down the mass of material from above.

Pressure is approximately 350 GPa at the center of the Earth = 3 454 231. atm or 50 742 660 psi.

1 atm = 760 mm Hg = 760 torr = 14.69 psi = 1.013251 x 105 Pa at about 25°C.

Furthermore, estimates on the temperature at the center of the Earth are in the range of 5300 - 7300 K. Graphite sublimates at about 3705°C (3978 K), but in the center of the earth, the graphite might dissolve into the surrounding metal. HfC has a melting temperature of 3888°C (4161 K), which is still below the above range.

See - Temperature at the Center of the Earth
 
mrfeathers said:
ok so here's my theory. i know that the center of the Earth is the most dense spot on the planet, ant that is why it is "molten lava" because the particles are moving so fast. So even if we had machines that could withstand the heat, wouldn't we not have a machine powerful enough that is capable of drilling through the rock because it is so incredibly dense?

Even though the core is hot enough for it to be molten, it is under such high pressure that it is actually solid.
 
I don't think we will ever reach the center of the earth. Even if we made a machine that could withstand the pressure, I think it would probably melt. And if it didn't, the people inside would unless there was some kind of cooling system. Even then the probability of reaching it wouldn't be very high.
 

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