With College Starting Up in Week or Two, How Are Your Campus COVID Rules?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the COVID-19 policies and rules being implemented by various educational institutions as they prepare for the return to campus in the upcoming academic year. Participants share their experiences and observations regarding capacity limits, mask mandates, vaccination requirements, and the overall impact of the pandemic on university life.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants report that their universities are offering a mix of online and in-person classes, with varying capacities and safety measures in place.
  • One participant mentions that their university requires masks in buildings regardless of vaccination status, reflecting ongoing concerns about new variants.
  • Another participant notes that vaccination is mandatory for students living on campus, while off-campus students may choose not to be vaccinated.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential consequences of fully reopening campuses without safety measures, especially given the prevalence of unvaccinated individuals and the Delta variant.
  • Some participants express discomfort with institutions returning to pre-COVID norms without adequate protective measures, citing risks of outbreaks and community impact.
  • There is a discussion about the age definition of "elderly" in the context of faculty vulnerability to COVID-19.
  • Links to external articles are shared, highlighting the situation in schools and vaccination attitudes among parents regarding children.
  • One participant suggests that the thread may need to be moved to a more appropriate forum if the discussion shifts towards the scientific aspects of COVID-19 and variants.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views regarding the adequacy of safety measures at their institutions, with some advocating for more stringent policies while others believe current measures are sufficient. There is no clear consensus on the best approach to managing COVID-19 in educational settings.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include varying definitions of safety measures, differing institutional policies, and the ongoing emergence of new COVID-19 variants, which complicate the discussion of effective strategies for returning to campus.

  • #31
hutchphd said:
Nor was that my intent. Absolutely the only visible way out of this is world wide vaccination. I was in fact trying to point out that in my personal experience the Delta variant is a nontrivially worse actor and if we do not get our collective act together we will be SOL (sorta outa luck)

In Canada (where I am from) at the national level, as of today we have about 73% of the population who have received at least one dose of the COVID-19 vaccine, and 65% who are fully vaccinated (as opposed to only about 51% fully vaccinated in the US). The percentage shoots up if you look at the percentage of people who are eligible to be vaccinated (which is anyone 12 and above).

Given those numbers, I'm optimistic that if our governments (at both the federal and provincial levels) push forward with vaccinations, we could potentially get to as much as 90% of the eligible population who are fully vaccinated (there will always some people who will not be vaccinated under any circumstances, but I suspect that would only a small percentage of people, at least here in Canada).
 
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  • #32
At the pre-college level, stories like these may put pressure to reverse school policy:

16-year-old South Carolina student dies from Covid-19 complications as school district struggles with infections​

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/16/us/lancaster-county-south-carolina-student-covid-death/index.html

13-Year-Old Mississippi Girl Dies of COVID After Governor Tate Reeves Called Mask Guidance 'Foolish​

https://www.yahoo.com/news/13-old-mississippi-girl-dies-221034144.html

11-Year-Old Jordyn Franklin Died From COVID-19 Minutes Before Doctor’s Visit​

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/11-old-jordyn-franklin-died-193058281.html

3 Florida Educators Die Of COVID-19 Within 24 Hours As Schools Prepare To Reopen​

https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...nty-florida-teachers-covid-coronavirus-deaths

Virus outbreaks temporarily close 4 Texas school districts​

https://apnews.com/article/health-t...rus-pandemic-8e78f68e2c0f118a3cc0c7cc68ff28cc
 
  • #33
StatGuy2000 said:
Within the province of Ontario (where I live), that percentage shoots up to 82% who have received at least one dose and 75% fully vaccinated.
In Indianapolis it is slightly over 50% fully vax. The governor, although Republican, is not from the large and vocal Luddite wing.
Just got off the phone with another friend who is feeling poorly and going in for PCR test...luckily (for me) I haven't had contact in several weeks..
 
  • #34
jtbell said:
Students must notify the college of their vaccination status, by (a) providing their vaccination card, (b) claiming medical or religious exemption, or (c) claiming "strong personal objection" to vaccination. The college plans to require all students in group (c) to get vaccinated after the FDA grants full approval to the vaccines.
The college's campus life office reported this week the statistics for students so far:
  • 60% are fully vaccinated
  • 7% have requested a waiver or exemption
  • 34% have not replied yet
Students start returning to campus next week.

jtbell said:
Faculty and staff have also been asked to provide their vaccination card if they have one, so that the college knows who's vaccinated and who isn't.
So far, 72% of faculty and staff have been vaccinated.

For comparion, in the state of South Carolina, 51% of people over age 18 have been fully vaccinated. In this rural county, the figure is 36%. :frown:
 
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  • #35
vela said:
Edit: *It appears there is no requirement for students to be vaccinated, wear masks, or social distance. There is currently no vaccine mandate for faculty either. I also learned the state apparently pays less for remote classes than in-person classes, which is another reason for the pressure to offer on-campus classes.
It seems the district has decided to take a slightly less disingenuous approach. There's still no vaccination requirement for students, but there is a mask requirement when indoors. Social distancing is encouraged.
 
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  • #37
Island living. It used to work better.
 
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  • #38
StevieTNZ said:
There was one case, which grew into ten.
I envy you all. Love Jacinda Ardern! Wish we had her leadership here in America, but that's a whole other topic.
 
  • #39
A negative test no older than 72 hours or vaccination. Luckily I'm fully vaccinated, so I can basically attend university as if COVID doesn't exist.
 

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