Women and Emotional Thinking: Examining a Common Gender Stereotype

[rewebster]

True, but how would you feel ?

Sorry, I can't relate to the question----but, I'd say you were with the wrong woman.


"I know women don't like being pigeonholed, or told that 'they' are a 'certain way'."

Men tolerate it a little more than every woman I've known.

 

[zoobyshoe]

I find the quoteAn offensive and inaccurate generalization. This puts women clearly in the "mothering role". Where is the "ability to lead, to think quickly, to make clear unemotional (rational) decisions?

Yes, my having asserted people only balk at negative generalizations requires you to balk at this positive one, because the meta-generalization that contains the positive one is negative.

 

[DanP]

Sorry, I can't relate to the question----but, I'd say you were with the wrong woman.

Why would she be the wrong one ? Because she told you the truth ? Or because she was inconsiderate and hurt something ? What makes her "wrong women" ? After all, maybe she tells the truth :P

Men tolerate it a little more than every woman I've known.

And how did you assessed this ? Through a scientific experiment, or through your own biased cognition ?

 

[zoobyshoe]

Man doesn't like to told they are a certain way as well. This is really sexless :P

People really only balk at negative generalizations. Walk up to a tall man and suggest that tall men make natural leaders, and he won't go searching for scientific papers to prove you wrong. But, if you point out that 57% of all serial killers are over 6 feet 2 inches in height, he'll certainly take offense.

 

[rewebster]

Why would she be the wrong one ? Because she told you the truth ? Or because she was inconsiderate and hurt something ? What makes her "wrong women" ? After all, maybe she tells the truth :P




And how did you assessed this ? Through a scientific experiment, or through your own biased cognition ?

yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes or yesX6

 

[DanP]

yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes or yesX6

So I take it you have no scientific proof of your generalization ?

 

[rewebster]

So I take it you have no scientific proof of your generalization ?

I didn't generalize anything, so no poof

poof!

 

[DanP]

I didn't generalize anything, so no poof

poof!

Really ?

Men tolerate it a little more than every woman I've known.

"Men" is a generalization. It means "a male human". Plural form. So the "male human" tolerates more than every female you know ?

 

[rewebster]

Men tolerate it a little more than every woman I've known.

 

[DanP]

Men tolerate it a little more than every woman I've known.

Sure thing. The generalization is MEN , not every women you have known :P

 

[rewebster]

Man doesn't like to told they are a certain way as well. This is really sexless :P How would you feel if your gf tells you "this is the shortest one I've ever seen, and I've seen a lot of them", even if its true ?

hmmm...

 

[DanP]

hmmm...

hmm what ? I did not pretend I didn't generalized. You did.

So again, want to present proof for your generalization ?

 

[rewebster]

Sure thing. The generalization is MEN , not every women you have known :P

"...I've known" applied to both

 

[rewebster]

have you actually had a woman say that to you?

 

[DanP]

have you actually had a woman say that to you?

Ive been told a lot of things. What are exactly are you interested in knowing ?

 

[rewebster]

nevermind---


should get back to thread topic

 

[GeorginaS]

It's like you don't know any women.



Women don't care how scientifically documented a string of compliments like that might be.

Not that a man would either, but the notion women would be outraged by positive generalizations is not borne out by my experience. People only balk at negative generalizations.

As you and I are both men, I know you will consider this post with an astute intellect, finely honed sense of fair play, an eye for the big picture, and deep concern for the underprivelidged.

I'm going to sit here before wandering out onto a limb and try to decide whether you're deliberately picking a fight with the women on this board or whether your tongue is firmly planted in your cheek.

 

[GeorginaS]

GeorginaS,

Funny you say that, I never even saw the NY Times review before I bought the book. I never buy or read that paper. When posting I used the first review that came up. In any event, I don't need the Times to endorse or not endorse a book to make up my own opinion about what the author has to say. If you have read it and want to discuss, that is fine by me, if not, that's fine as well. I stand by my opinion though.

Rhody...

I don't know why it's funny that I commented on the link you provided. Anyway, generally, when people provide links to outside sources of information the person has a) read the material they've linked and b) the material supports what they're saying. I thought it was odd that you'd link something that contradicted everything you said.

It's got nothing to do with whether or not you, personally, rely upon the Times to endorse books you read, it's got to do with how you communicate your ideas to other people.

 

[DanP]

I'm going to sit here before wandering out onto a limb and try to decide whether you're deliberately picking a fight with the women on this board or whether your tongue is firmly planted in your cheek.

God, I do enjoy this thread

 

[zoobyshoe]

I'm going to sit here before wandering out onto a limb and try to decide whether you're deliberately picking a fight with the women on this board or whether your tongue is firmly planted in your cheek.

Are you outraged by positive generalizations about women?

 

[ideasrule]

I would like to know how many women here would agree that women make decisions 'with their heart', up to the point we mention voting. (For some reason that particular example was the bone of contention.) Here, in real life, it's not at all uncommon for women I know to assert they trust their heart over logic, and to criticize men for looking at certain issues too intellectually, systematically, logically, at the expense of their emotions.

I've never understood criticisms like those. "I know you men say 2+2=4, but my emotions tell me 5 is a better number, so 2+2=5." WTF?

 

[ViewsofMars]

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Yesterday I got into a discussion with a girl from school about how women are generally more emotional thinkers than men. What mean is that they base their decisions more heavily on how they feel 'in their heart' rather than possibly looking at the big picture. It's more of a personal (dare I say selfish?) kind of thing. She agreed with me, until I put the example of how women vote. Politicians can occasionally win elections because they are very attractive and good with kids. I would attribute this kind of effect to the female vote. Now, I'm not saying that men don't make stupid decisions, but they don't usually base their vote on how cool they think their candidate is.

Anyway, she still didn't buy my argument (possibly because she's a lady haha) so I told her that I would come back to her after the weekend with a better one. Any suggestions?

I'm pretty firm in my beliefs about this generalisation of women - probably because my mother is an extremely rational thinker, so growing up I was never around 'that' kind of girl, and now it REALLY pops out to me. I'd like to stress, though, that this isn't meant to be some kind of jab at women. You're all wonderful and men have their flaws too.

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Dear OP ~ ~ ~ Humm. Let me think. As a mature adult woman I don't think about this kind of stuff nor do the women or the men I know. I will tell you this much, I think women are very intuitive and so are men to a lesser degree sometimes depending on the situation. Of course, no two people think alike. Although, my experience with men has made me realize over time that they are sensitive, intelligent, and amusing creatures. Just like females that I know as friends. The nice thing about every male that I have ever known is that they are or have been intriguing and fun loving the majority of the time. Not to say that when a bunch of us women get together we don't define the particular details of a relationship, we most full heartedly do over a bottle or two of wine or shots of tequilla. Of course, what we share with each other remains a secret.

p.s. As i get older I like to hear laughter more often.

 

[ideasrule]

I find the quoteAn offensive and inaccurate generalization. This puts women clearly in the "mothering role". Where is the "ability to lead, to think quickly, to make clear unemotional (rational) decisions?

Why do you think the "mothering role" is inaccurate? My rule of thumb is that the more politically correct something is, the less likely it is to be fair, scientific, accurate, or rational.

 

[zoobyshoe]

Although, my experience with men has made me realize over time that they are sensitive, intelligent, and amusing creatures...The nice thing about every male that I have ever known is that they are or have been intriguing and fun loving the majority of the time.

I'LL BUY THIS!


@Evo and Georgina: it's elementary that a person won't turn down a compliment even if it's in the form of an inaccurate generalization about their gender.

 

[rootX]

Has anyone been to both male and women only washrooms?

I believe female washrooms are cleaner...

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

Has anyone been to both male and women only washrooms?

I believe female washrooms are cleaner...

I have had jobs cleaning both. Your belief, from my experience, is inaccurate.

 

[rootX]

I have had jobs cleaning both. Your belief, from my experience, is inaccurate.

Do they also draw on the toilet walls/write (mostly sexual) comments?

Found an interesting blog article

http://digitalyoung.aldoiu.ro/2009/04/20/toilet-writing-practices/

 

[Math Is Hard]

Do they also draw on the toilet walls/write (mostly sexual) comments?

We usually snuck into the men's washroom to do that.

I think this thread has run its course. (If it ever had one.) If the OP had made racist generalizations rather than sexist ones, it would have been closed lightning fast.

 

[Astronuc]

I think this thread has run its course. (If it ever had one.)

Pretty much downhill from the beginning.

The OP starts with some gross generalizations, which are not supported scientifically, or otherwise with any evidence.