Work Done by a Constant Force (Q6 page 188 of Cutnell and Johnson)

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6.A person pulls a toboggan for a distance of 35.0 m along the snow with a rope directed 25.0° above the snow. The tension in the rope is 94.0 N.

a) How much work is done on the toboggan by the tension force? Ok, so W = (F cos Θ) s
= (94.0 cos 25°) 25 m
= WRONG ANSWER

I know the answer is 94.0 times distance but that would equal WORK right (fs)

why are they doing (94.0 N)(35.0 M) = Force?

**this is really frustrating , why are they including distance as force?
 
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So what does it say in terms of a "right" answer or solution?

Why does your solution have 94.0 twice?
 
gcombina said:
6.A person pulls a toboggan for a distance of 35.0 m along the snow with a rope directed 25.0° above the snow. The tension in the rope is 94.0 N.

a) How much work is done on the toboggan by the tension force? Ok, so W = (F cos Θ) s
= (94.0 cos 25°) 94.0 N
Hi gcombina. What does that "s" in your formula stand for? What units would it have?

Also, what are the units of that "W"?
 
this is the "right" answer

W = (94.0 N) (35.0 m) cos 25.0 = 2980 J
 
olivermsun said:
So what does it say in terms of a "right" answer or solution?

Why does your solution have 94.0 twice?


it was my mistake, i corrected it already.
 
NascentOxygen said:
Hi gcombina. What does that "s" in your formula stand for? What units would it have?

Also, what are the units of that "W"?
basically, this is the right answer => (94.0 N) (35.0 m) cos 25° =2980 J

this is formula (F cos θ)s I always use, but now they are using (Fs cos θ), where is this formula comes from?

I though W = (F cos θ)s and NOT (Fs cos θ)
 
Uhmmmm ... It is the same. Multiplication is commutative so it does not matter what order you multiply things in.
 
gcombina said:
basically, this is the right answer => (94.0 N) (35.0 m) cos 25° =2980 J

this is formula (F cos θ)s I always use, but now they are using (Fs cos θ), where is this formula comes from?

I though W = (F cos θ)s and NOT (Fs cos θ)
Do these give the same answer?
 
NascentOxygen said:
Do these give the same answer?

no, they don't give the same answer

Fs cos θ => (94.0 N) (35.0 m) cos 25° =2980 J

AND

F cos θ => (94.0 N) cos 25° = 85.19 J
 
gcombina said:
F cos θ => (94.0 N) cos 25° = 85.19 J

Check your units. You wrote Joules but it is actually Newtons.

I think you meant "(F cos θ)s"? In which case, you do get the same answer.
 
There is something very fundamental that you are misunderstanding, but I'm having difficulty identifying what.

gcombina said:
why are they doing (94.0 N)(35.0 M) = Force?

**this is really frustrating , why are they including distance as force?

They aren't. It's difficult to see why you might think they are.

F s cosθ = Force x distance x cosθ
 
Starting from the beginning, step by step:

W = (F cos Θ) s

The distance is s = 35.0 m
The force in the direction that the distance is measured over is F cos Θ = (94.0 N)(cos 25°)

W = (F cos Θ) s = (94.0 N)(cos 25°)(35.0 m) = 2980 N m = 2980 J.