Work done by a uniform Ring of Charge (due tomorrow

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The problem involves calculating the work required to move a charged ball to the center of a uniformly charged ring. The ring has a diameter of 7.90 cm and a charge of 5.20 μC, while the ball has a charge of 3.40 μC and a mass of 1.50 g.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between force and electric field, noting that the force experienced by the charge changes with distance from the ring. There are attempts to set up integrals to calculate work done, with some questioning the expressions used for electric potential and force. Others suggest different methods for approaching the problem, such as finding the electric field along the axis of the ring or determining potential as a function of distance.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing various insights and suggestions for approaches. Some participants have pointed out potential errors in the original equations and have asked for clarification on the setup of the problem.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of a potential typo in the equations provided, and participants are exploring the implications of using the electric field from a point charge versus that from a charged ring. The original poster has requested specific advice, indicating a need for further clarification on their approach.

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Homework Statement


A ring of diameter 7.90 cm is fixed in place and carries a charge of 5.20 μC uniformly spread over its circumference.
How much work does it take to move a tiny 3.40 μC charged ball of mass 1.50 g from very far away to the center of the ring?

Homework Equations


V=(KQ)/r^2
intergral of k(Qq)/r^2 *ds= work done
work done= - (change in potential energy)
work done= F dot delta S (otherwise known as displacement)

The Attempt at a Solution


First i realized that force=Eq and that the force felt would be changing due to how far away the charge was from the uniform circle. So i setup
intergral of K(Qq)/r^2*ds from r to infinity
i got -KQq/r as my indefinite intergral, which i thought was the electric potential.energy
(K(3.4*10^-6)*(5.2*10^-6))/0.079= 2.01= electric potential energy ( at infinity it would be 0).
Specific advice would be incredibly helpful
 
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Melo out said:

Homework Statement


A ring of diameter 7.90 cm is fixed in place and carries a charge of 5.20 μC uniformly spread over its circumference.
How much work does it take to move a tiny 3.40 μC charged ball of mass 1.50 g from very far away to the center of the ring?

Homework Equations


V=(KQ)/r^2
intergral of k(Qq)/r^2 *ds= work done
work done= - (change in potential energy)
work done= F dot delta S (otherwise known as displacement)

The Attempt at a Solution


First i realized that force=Eq and that the force felt would be changing due to how far away the charge was from the uniform circle. So i setup
intergral of K(Qq)/r^2*ds from r to infinity
i got -KQq/r as my indefinite intergral, which i thought was the electric potential.energy
(K(3.4*10^-6)*(5.2*10^-6))/0.079= 2.01= electric potential energy ( at infinity it would be 0).
Specific advice would be incredibly helpful
It's rather hard to tell what you did without more details. What expression did you use to relate r to s? Did you take into account which component of the field you needed?
 
you have a typo in relevant equations
V=kQ/r not(kQ/r^2)

yes the force on a charge q is Eq,but the E which you have taken is only due to a point charge not a charged ring!
there are two ways to approach this problem
1.find the electric field on the axis of the ring as a function of how far the test charge is away from the centre of the ring.
then integrate to find the work you have put into move the charge from infinity to the centre of the ring.

2.the second method is a bit more straightforward. find the potential as a function of how far the test charge is from the centre of the ring .
then finding the work done is easy.
 

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