Work done to bring together 2 protons

In summary, the conversation discusses the necessary work to bring two protons in a Helium atom from an infinite separation to a distance of 1.0fm. The equation for the electric potential energy of a charge at a distance r from another charge is used to calculate the work done by the external agent. The work done is positive, as it is harder to bring the protons closer together due to their repulsive force.
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Homework Statement


The nucleus of a Helium atom contains 2 protons which are 1.0fm apart. How much work has to be done by an external agent to bring the two protons from an infinite separation to a distance of 1.0fm.


Homework Equations


F=k|q1||q2|/r^2
W=F*r



The Attempt at a Solution


Would i just need to use the charge of a proton to find the force? and then plug it into the work equation?
 
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The force varies with r, so what force value would you use? You can't even get away with an average value because of the squaring. If you know calculus you can do the integral of F*dr. If not, you'll have to look up a formula for the electric potential energy of a charge at distance r from another charge.
 
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Would I set the potential energy to the work
and solve for electrical potential energy
so U=-W
U=kq1q2/r
 
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Yes, that's all you need. U = 0 at infinite distance, so all the work done becomes the U at r = 1 fm.
 
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crazuiee said:
Would I set the potential energy to the work
and solve for electrical potential energy
so U=-W
U=kq1q2/r

Yes, this is somewhat correct. Since there are two protons in your system, U > 0. But your previous equation suggests that the external agent must do negative work, which isn't quite correct b/c protons repulse each other and it should be harder (positive work) to bring them close together. Therefore, your equation U = -W is actually the work done by the electric field. The applied work W_app is W_app = -W = U, so W_app > 0 for this problem.
 

1. What is "work done" in relation to bringing together 2 protons?

Work done refers to the amount of energy required to bring two protons together. This energy is necessary to overcome the repulsive force between the positively charged protons.

2. How is the amount of work done calculated?

The amount of work done can be calculated using the formula W = Fd, where W is the work done, F is the force applied, and d is the distance over which the force is applied.

3. What is the unit of measurement for work done?

In the SI system, the unit of measurement for work done is joules (J). It can also be measured in other units such as ergs or kilowatt-hours (kWh).

4. Can the amount of work done vary when bringing together 2 protons?

Yes, the amount of work done can vary depending on the distance between the protons and the force applied. The closer the protons are, the more work is required to bring them together.

5. Why is work done important in bringing together 2 protons?

Work done is important in bringing together 2 protons because it is directly related to the amount of energy required for the protons to overcome their repulsive force and bond together. Without work done, the protons would not be able to form a stable nucleus, which is essential for the formation of atoms and matter.

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