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The discussion revolves around calculating the work done while walking up a mountain, specifically focusing on the application of physics concepts such as force, angles, and the work formula. The subject area includes mechanics and vector analysis.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the use of different trigonometric functions (sine vs. cosine) in the work formula and question the appropriate angle to use in the context of the incline. There is an exploration of the relationship between the angle of incline and the angle between force and displacement.

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Participants are actively seeking clarification on the correct application of the work formula, particularly regarding the angles involved. Some guidance has been provided regarding the definition of the angle in the work formula, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach yet.

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There is mention of specific angles (35 degrees and 25 degrees) and the lengths of slopes, which may be relevant to the calculations but are not fully detailed in the discussion. Participants are also referencing notes and external resources, indicating a reliance on prior learning materials.

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I used F=ma to calculate F and pythag theorem to calculate slope lengths

The Attempt at a Solution



On the left hand side (angle 35) the slope length is 636m, on the right hand side (angle 25) the slope length is 365m.

Now, in my notes I know that F=ma and since there is an angle inbetween, to calculate work done the formula is:

Work done = (F)(Cos,theta)(Distance)

so we should use cos35 and cos 25 but on the videos and mark scheme they use sin instead of cos??

Could someone explain why we use sin and not cos?
 
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Theta corresponds to what angle? (In the work formula.)
 
ravsterphysics said:
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Homework Equations


I used F=ma to calculate F and pythag theorem to calculate slope lengths

The Attempt at a Solution



On the left hand side (angle 35) the slope length is 636m, on the right hand side (angle 25) the slope length is 365m.

Now, in my notes I know that F=ma and since there is an angle inbetween, to calculate work done the formula is:

Work done = (F)(Cos,theta)(Distance)

so we should use cos35 and cos 25 but on the videos and mark scheme they use sin instead of cos??

Could someone explain why we use sin and not cos?

Doc Al said:
Theta corresponds to what angle? (In the work formula.)

the incline angle, so in this case it would be either 35 or 25, that's what I have in my notes
 
ravsterphysics said:
the incline angle, so in this case it would be either 35 or 25, that's what I have in my notes
In the formula for work, it's the angle between force (what's the force you're working against here?) and the displacement. (Not simply the angle of the incline, though it's surely related.)
 

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