Work Problem: Calculate Force, Work & Friction

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The problem involves a worker pushing a crate at an angle while it slides along a horizontal surface. The discussion centers around calculating the force required to maintain constant velocity, as well as the work done by various forces acting on the crate, including friction, normal force, and gravity.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the applied force and friction, particularly how the angle of application affects the normal force and, consequently, the frictional force. There is a focus on distinguishing between the work done by the applied force and the work done by friction.

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Some participants have provided insights into the complexities of the problem, particularly regarding the interaction between the applied force and friction. There is an ongoing examination of the components of forces and their contributions to work, with no explicit consensus reached on the calculations yet.

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Participants are navigating the implications of the angle of force application on the normal force and friction, which may not be fully resolved. The problem's structure includes multiple parts that require careful consideration of definitions and assumptions related to work and force components.

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Homework Statement


Suppose a worker pushes down at an angle of 30° below the horizontal on a 30.0‐kg crate
sliding with along a horizontal warehouse floor (μ_{k} = 0.25) for 4.5 meters.
a. What magnitude of force must the worker apply to move the crate at constant velocity?

b. How much work is done on the crate by this force over the 4.5 m?

c. How much work is done on the crate by friction over that same distance?

d. How much work is done on the crate by the normal force over this distance?

e. How much work is done on the crate by gravity?

f. What is the total work done on the crate?


Homework Equations


W = F_{par}d


The Attempt at a Solution


(d), (e), and (f) are pretty simple. The normal force and gravity are perpendicular to motion so don't affect work. Since it's moving at a constant velocity, the net force is zero, so there's no work there either.

My problem is really the distinction between (b) and (c). I calculated the frictional force to 73.5 N. For part (a), the frictional force is just the horizontal component of the total force needed to push the crate. But only the frictional force will affect the amount of work done, right? So (b), and (c) are the same answer?
 
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Remember: friction always opposes motion. The block is going along the floor, but friction is acting upon it trying to push it backwards.
 
I agree that (b) and (c) are the same.
But I don't think you have the correct answer for (a).
The trouble is that the harder you push at the 30 degree angle, the harder your vertical component pushes the crate against the floor, and the more friction you get. That is, in F = μ*Fn, the detailed expression for Fn involves F. It isn't too bad to work out, but you do have to consider that vertical component of the applied force.
 
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My problem is really the distinction between (b) and (c). I calculated the frictional force to 73.5 N. For part (a), the frictional force is just the horizontal component of the total force needed to push the crate. But only the frictional force will affect the amount of work done, right? So (b), and (c) are the same answer?
Not exactly. What you wrote is a little bit confusing. The horizontal component of the applied force is equal in magnitude to the frictional force but points in the opposite direction. It is not the frictional force. I think that's what you meant by what you wrote.

You're right that it's only the horizontal component of the applied force which does work; the vertical component, like the normal force and gravity, is perpendicular to the direction of motion so it does no work.

Think about the sign of the work done by the applied force and the work done by friction.
 
Thank you, vela. I did mean to say that the horizontal component of the applied is equal in magnitude to the frictional force.
 

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