Work/spring: Work Done by Gravity & Spring Compression - 760 kg Elevator

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The problem involves an elevator that falls onto a spring after its cable breaks. The scenario includes calculating the work done by gravity and the spring's compression, with specific parameters such as the mass of the elevator and the spring constant provided.

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  • Participants discuss the calculations for work done by gravity and the speed of the elevator before impact. There are attempts to derive the spring compression using energy principles, with some participants questioning the inclusion of potential energy in their calculations.

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Homework Statement


An elevator cable breaks when a 760 kg elevator is 29 m above the top of a huge spring (k = 8.00 × 104 N/m) at the bottom of the shaft.
(a) Calculate the work done by gravity on the elevator before it hits the spring.


(b) Calculate the speed of the elevator just before striking the spring.


(c) Calculate the amount the spring compresses (note that here work is done by both the spring and gravity).


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The Attempt at a Solution


I got 215992 J for a, 23.8 m/s for b, and I need help with c. Thanks!
 
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Bones said:

Homework Statement


An elevator cable breaks when a 760 kg elevator is 29 m above the top of a huge spring (k = 8.00 × 104 N/m) at the bottom of the shaft.
(a) Calculate the work done by gravity on the elevator before it hits the spring.

(b) Calculate the speed of the elevator just before striking the spring.

(c) Calculate the amount the spring compresses (note that here work is done by both the spring and gravity).

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution


I got 215992 J for a, 23.8 m/s for b, and I need help with c. Thanks

OK. What is the formula for Work done by the spring?

It will involve a "distance", and the problem is telling you to include that additional potential energy in addition to the kinetic energy to determine the total depression.
 
I took -215992 J = .5(-8.0x10^4)(d^2) and got 2.32 m which is not correct according to webassign.
 
I figured it out ;)
 
Bones said:
I took -215992 J = .5(-8.0x10^4)(d^2) and got 2.32 m which is not correct according to webassign.

Don't you also need the m*g*d term too?

I presume this is the correction you discovered?
 

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