Work Word problem - linear equation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a work problem involving a group of men completing a task within a specified timeframe. Participants explore the concepts of man-days, work rates, and how to calculate the number of men who stopped working after a certain period. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and conceptual clarification related to work and rates of work.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose calculating the total man-days required to finish the work and how those man-days are allocated over time.
  • One participant questions how to derive individual work rates from the collective work rate of the group.
  • There is a discussion about the definition of "man-day," with some clarifying that it refers to the work done by one individual in a day.
  • Another participant expresses confusion about the distinction between "man-day" and "work-rate," leading to further clarification that a man-day is specific to one man's work per day, while work-rate can be more general.
  • A mathematical equation is proposed to determine the number of men who stopped working, leading to a calculation suggesting that 10 men stopped.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the definitions of man-days and the approach to solving the problem, but there are varying levels of understanding regarding the calculations and concepts involved. The discussion remains unresolved in terms of clarifying all participants' understanding of the terms used.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the definitions and calculations related to man-days and work rates, indicating a need for further clarification on these concepts.

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Forty men were engaged to finish a work in 90 days.
Afer 60 days, some men stopped working.
The remaining men finished the job at a same rate in 40 more days.
How many men stopped?

this is how far I can get to

let x = number of men remained
40-x = number of men stopped

Please help. thanks!
 
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paulmdrdo said:
Forty men were engaged to finish a work in 90 days.
Afer 60 days, some men stopped working.
The remaining men finished the job at a same rate in 40 more days.
How many men stopped?

this is how far I can get to

let x = number of men remained
40-x = number of men stopped

Please help. thanks!

Hi paulmdrdo!

How many man-days in total does it take to finish the work?
How are the man-days actually spent? That should sum up to the total.
 
working together they are required to do the job in 90 days.

so their rate of work is 1/90 per day. but I don't know how to get their individual rate.
and also what do you mean by "man-day" ? is it a day an individual working alone?
please help.
 
paulmdrdo said:
working together they are required to do the job in 90 days.

so their rate of work is 1/90 per day. but I don't know how to get their individual rate.
and also what do you mean by "man-day" ? is it a day an individual working alone?
please help.

Yes, a man-day is the work an individual does when working alone.
Since the job takes 90 days with 40 men together, the total number of man-days is $40 \cdot 90 = 3600$.
That means that their individual rate is 1/3600 per day instead of 1/90.

So 40 men working for 60 days complete $40\cdot 60$ man-days.
Summed with the men, that remain working, times 40 days must come out as the total number of man-days.
 
$40(90)=40(60)+40(40-x)$

x=10 men stopped working.

"man-day" is confusing me. is it a day a single person required to get the job done or is it the work done in a day by a single person? which is which? can you explain more.

sorry bear with me. English is not my mother language. thanks!
 
Hello, paulmdrdo!

Forty men were engaged to finish a work in 90 days.
Afer 60 days, some men stopped working.
The remaining men finished the job at a same rate in 40 more days.
How many men stopped?
Let x = number of men who stopped.

Forty men were expected to do the job in 90 days.
But they worked only 60 days.
So they did only \tfrac{60}{90} \,=\,\tfrac{2}{3} of the job.

In one day, the 40 men could do \tfrac{1}{90} of the job.
In one day, one man could do \tfrac{1}{3600} of the job.
In 40 days, one man could do \tfrac{40}{3600} \,=\,\tfrac{1}{90} of the job.

In 40 days, the remaining 40-x men can do \tfrac{40-x}{90} of the job.
But this task was the other \tfrac{1}{3} of the job.

Hence: .\frac{40-x}{90} \:=\:\frac{1}{3}

Got it?
 
paulmdrdo said:
$40(90)=40(60)+40(40-x)$

x=10 men stopped working.

Good!
"man-day" is confusing me. is it a day a single person required to get the job done or is it the work done in a day by a single person? which is which? can you explain more.

sorry bear with me. English is not my mother language. thanks!

A man-day is the work done in a day by a single person.
 
how is "man-day" different from "work-rate"?
 
paulmdrdo said:
how is "man-day" different from "work-rate"?

A man-day is the work-rate of one man per day.

Work-rate is a more general term, which does not have to be for one man nor for one day.
 

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