What is the Proper Involute Profile for Worm Gear Drive Teeth Design?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the proper involute profile for designing worm gear drive teeth, specifically in the context of modeling in SolidWorks for finite element analysis. Participants explore various aspects of gear design, including the relationship between the worm and the gear, and the challenges faced in obtaining accurate profiles for their specific applications.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in finding appropriate profiles for worm gears, noting that most resources available online pertain to spur gears.
  • Another participant inquires whether the original poster is looking for a standard worm gear or creating a custom design.
  • It is mentioned that instructional videos and online resources may assist in designing worm gears, although specific guidance on worm gear profiles is less common.
  • Concerns are raised about the compatibility of a spur gear within a worm gear assembly, with a participant confirming that it is indeed possible to drive a worm gear with a spur gear.
  • A participant highlights the importance of matching the worm and worm wheel profiles, suggesting that the worm can have various profiles while the wheel must be compatible.
  • Another participant points out the potential issue of bearing sizes relative to gear dimensions, indicating a mismatch that raises concerns about the design's feasibility.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the possibility of using spur gears in worm gear assemblies, but there is no consensus on the specific involute profiles or the best practices for designing worm gears. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal approach to modeling these components.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various resources and techniques for modeling gears, but there are limitations in the availability of specific instructional content for worm gears compared to spur gears. Additionally, there are unresolved questions about the appropriateness of certain dimensions and profiles in the design process.

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Hello i am having trouble figuring out the proper profile to use for the worm and the gear. I need to model it in solidworks and everything i am finding online is for spur gears. I need to get the worm and gear to mesh correctly so i can do some finite element analysis on it. I have calculated my pitch diameters for both and i have what i believe to be the correct addendum and dedendum dimensions for my worm gear.

Can someone point me in the right direction? how does one get the proper involute for their teeth?
 
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Are you just needing a standard worm gear in solidworks? Or are you making your own
 
Joppy said:
Are you just needing a standard worm gear in solidworks? Or are you making your own

im supposed to make my own. right now i am doing the gear with this technique i found https://grabcad.com/questions/tutor...te-gears-in-solidworks-and-show-design-intent
and i found a similar gear train to what i designed on paper on grabcad it came with the solidworks file of how the person created it.

Am i in the right direction?
 
I think you are yes. If you need to design your own worm gear, then find some instructional videos on youtube (there are plenty), and what you are currently using looks good too.

I guess the main things you need to consider are the teeth profiles and so on, which, there happens to be a lot of standard data for online
 
Joppy said:
I think you are yes. If you need to design your own worm gear, then find some instructional videos on youtube (there are plenty), and what you are currently using looks good too.

I guess the main things you need to consider are the teeth profiles and so on, which, there happens to be a lot of standard data for online

Thanks. I tried youtube already and can't seem to find much on worm gears. My main concern is that i don't know if what i am using (the link) is a spur gear? can the wheel in a worm train be a spur gear?
 
Yes, you can drive it with a spur gear
 
Joppy said:
Yes, you can drive it with a spur gear

Alright that's good to know then. I got my assembly almost done, but i ran into an issue. My gears diameter is rougly 80mm and i have some calculations(might be wrong) in which i need to use a 25mm diameter shaft. This sounds good in paper but i downloaded some 25mm diameter bearing solidworks file from McMaster-Carr and the bearings are almost as big as my gear!... it doesn't look reasonable to me. Any thoughts on it?
 
The worm and worm wheel must be matched. The worm can have any profile, pitch or starts of “thread”.
The worm wheel must be a profile that mates with the worm.

Imagine a worm with cutting flutes like a threading tap. Then turn the worm to cut the teeth in the wheel.

High power worm gears have a non-cylindrical worm that is more rigid, stronger and makes greater contact with the wheel than would a simple screw.
 

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