Would this be a picture of pentene?

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The discussion revolves around the nomenclature of alkenes, specifically whether a given structure can be accurately named as pentene and how the location of the double bond influences this naming. Participants explore the rules of naming alkenes and the implications of substituents and isomerism.

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  • Homework-related, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

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  • One participant questions if the location of the double bond is significant in naming alkenes.
  • Another participant confirms that the location of the double bond and the presence of side chains are important, noting that the structure could be considered a substituted pentene and an isomer of hexene.
  • A participant outlines the nomenclature rules for alkenes, detailing steps to identify the longest carbon chain and how to number it to give the double bond the lowest possible numbers.
  • There is a suggestion that the systematic name could be 4-methyl-2-pentene, emphasizing the importance of indicating the position of the double bond in the name.
  • Another participant offers a personal opinion that the position of the multiple bond could be placed after the root name for clarity, suggesting the name 4-methylpent-2-ene as an alternative.

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Participants generally agree on the importance of the double bond's location in naming alkenes, but there are differing opinions on the best way to format the systematic name, indicating a lack of consensus on nomenclature preferences.

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Participants reference specific nomenclature rules but do not resolve potential ambiguities regarding the naming conventions or the implications of isomerism.

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Would this be a picture of pentene?

I'm unsure because of the location of the double bond - does the location of the double bond factor into naming alkenes?
 

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Location of the double bond matters, just like the side chain matters. But yes, technically it is a substituted pentene. At the same time it is an isomer of hexene.
 
Borek said:
Location of the double bond matters, just like the side chain matters. But yes, technically it is a substituted pentene. At the same time it is an isomer of hexene.

Thank you! I looked up the nomenclature rules for alkenes and they are:

1) Find longest carbon chain. In this case that would be the 5-carbon chain (pentene).
2) Number longest carbon chain so that the double bonded carbons have the lowest numbers.
3) If the double-bonded carbons are equidistant from the ends, then number so that the first substituent has the lowest number.
4) Name substituents and and chain as appropriate (follow rules for alkanes now)
5) If more than one double bond is present, indicate positions using numbers and add appropriate suffixies (i.e. -diene). In this case there is only one double bond.

So would the systematic name be: 4-methyl-2-pentene? I numbered so that the double-bonded carbons get the lowest numbers. I also forgot to mention above that the position of the double bond must be mentioned in the systematic name.
 
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Although you are right in nomenclature, I'd say in my personal opinion, you can put the number corresponding to the position of multiple bond after the root (chain length). This way, if there are both double and triple bond present, it looks tidy.

For eg. 4-methylpent-2-ene.
 

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