Would you eat in vitro meat even if were proven to be 100% safe?

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The discussion revolves around the controversial topic of in vitro meat, with participants expressing strong opinions on its potential impact on food supply, ethics, and agriculture. Concerns are raised about the safety and quality of lab-grown meat compared to traditional meat, emphasizing the importance of animal welfare and the environmental implications of commercial agriculture. Some participants argue that in vitro meat could alleviate animal suffering and provide a sustainable food source, while others fear it could lead to the decline of traditional farming practices and the loss of flavor and quality associated with naturally raised animals. The debate touches on the historical context of agriculture, the evolution of food production, and the complexities of taste and nutrition in meat. Overall, the conversation highlights a divide between those who welcome technological advancements in food production and those who prioritize traditional methods and ethical considerations in animal treatment.
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netgypsy said:
I'm aware that the technique to grow "just the interior" of an orange is not the same as that used to grow muscle. That doesn't mean it isn't possible.
I'm not saying it isn't possible to grow plants in a bioreactor but there really is no need. It would be more expensive and inefficient than simple hydroponics or even grown from the Earth.
netgypsy said:
By being there yet I meant the technology is there but obviously has to be first tweaked, then mass produced to get the price down. And probably subsidized for a while. But it's very exciting.
It isn't just a question of being "tweaked", this is a massive new area of science to develop. One of the biggest challenges I see is developing techniques for growth medium that don't rely on factors derived from animals such as fetal bovine serum (a very important factor in cell culture). And that's on top of the obvious huge problems of controlling cell behaviour to such an accurate extent and growing large tissues without support organs and systems e.g. growing tissues with blood vessels to get over the limit imposed by oxygen diffusion.
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Reminds me of some book I read a million years ago where artificial wombs were available so women didn't have to go through pregnancy. Wonder how long that will take?
We're nowhere near lol. Not only would we have to grow a full uterus in a bioreactor (and today we're only managing simple tissues) but we would have to replicate the bodily functions of a pregnant female e.g. hormones and other endocrines, cell transfer (see maternal microchimerism), supply of blood and other factors etc etc etc. On top of that we've got the huge ethical problems to overcome; who is ever going to give consent to grow the first human in a tank? Who is going to run the risk of being the person or group to allow a potential creation of life that may result in birth defects or other disorders?

Like I said before in vitro tissue synthesis is an emerging field but it is not on the verge of a keystone-event breakthrough. It is going to take a long time and incremental progress and the hurdles we face are non-trivial. It's an exciting field don't get me wrong (indeed regenerative medicine is the field that I just finished a masters in and intent to pursue) but we shouldn't get too ahead of ourselves.
 
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That's what they said about computers too. I remember those first calculators. Sooo amazing back then. And look at what they can do now and what they're on the brink of being able to do. Matrix revisited hahaha
 
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netgypsy said:
I'm aware that the technique to grow "just the interior" of an orange is not the same as that used to grow muscle. That doesn't mean it isn't possible.

*wonders when they will start making bread with no crust*
 
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What if we wrapped the dough in bacon ( of course invitro bacon) before cooking it? Would that prevent a crust from forming? Have to try that. Gotta get some bread flour. The problem is to have a covering that will stretch as the bread rises. Hmmm - maybe wrap the dough in a pizza crust. It's super stretchy. Gotta try that to. THE NEXT GREAT INVENTION - CRUSTLESS BREAD. Another idea - make one of those foil covers like they have for popcorn you make on the stove. Those are so funny.
 
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netgypsy said:
What if we wrapped the dough in bacon before cooking it? Would that prevent a crust from forming? Have to try that. Gotta get some bread flour. The problem is to have a covering that will stretch as the bread rises. Hmmm - maybe wrap the dough in a pizza crust. It's super stretchy. Gotta try that to. THE NEXT GREAT INVENTION - CRUSTLESS BREAD
Oooh, bacon wrapped bread.
 
  • #96
Move to Japan. The Japanese don't like crust on their bread so the market trims it off before selling it. They also sell the trimmings very cheap. I would buy bags of them whenever I got the chance. I made sandwiches with the heels and bread pudding with the crusts.
 

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