Wysips transparent solar cell.

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The discussion revolves around the Wysips transparent solar cell, focusing on its design features, particularly the use of a magnifying array, and the implications for efficiency and practicality in mobile devices. Participants explore the relationship between light intensity, material cost, and the operational challenges of integrating the solar cell with a display.

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  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that Einstein demonstrated the work function's dependence on frequency rather than intensity, questioning the necessity of a magnifying array in the Wysips cell.
  • Others propose that higher intensity reduces the amount of active material needed, potentially lowering costs.
  • One participant notes that magnifying arrays are typically used in GaAs-based solar cells, which are high-efficiency but expensive, contrasting with the cheaper Si-based solar cells that do not use concentration optics.
  • Concerns are raised about the practicality of focused sunlight on a mobile device, as the movement of the device could lead to misalignment with the active silicon area.
  • A participant suggests that the lens array is not for focusing light but to compensate for the thin silicon coating, which may not effectively carry charges.
  • Another participant questions the efficiency of the photoelectric layer in absorbing light while allowing visibility of the display, raising concerns about the power requirements for a brighter display.
  • There is speculation about the need for a large off/on time ratio for the display to mitigate power issues, and the potential benefit of using a directional display like a lenticular screen.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity and effectiveness of the magnifying array, the efficiency of the solar cell in practical applications, and the implications for display power consumption. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge various assumptions regarding the efficiency of materials, the operational environment of mobile devices, and the design choices of the solar cell, which may not be fully explored or agreed upon.

Rush2112
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Didnt einstein show that the work function depends on frequency not intensity? If so, than why does the Wysips cell use a magnifying array?
Sorry i don't have a pic, but a diagram of the solar cell may be found using google images.
 
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Rush2112 said:
If so, than why does the Wysips cell use a magnifying array?

The higher the intensity the less active material is required. That makes the cell cheaper.
 
As far as I know magnifying arrays are used for GaAs-based solar cell, which are high-efficiency but expensive. For Si-based solar cells, which are much cheaper, no concentration optics is used.
 
DrStupid said:
The higher the intensity the less active material is required. That makes the cell cheaper.

But if you're using the solar cell on your mobile device which is always moving around (as is the sun), then the focused sunlight would always move out of the active silicon area.
Plus, since polycrystalline is so cheap nowadays, are u sure the cost of adding lenses+the poor optical tranmission thru the lens array is worth it?

Again, in my gendankin, I am seeing the focused sunlight move all over the place, and only periodically and by chance falling on the active area therefore my question remains unexplained.
 
Alright, I figured out the lens array issue.
The lenses aren't used to focus loght at all; theyre used because the silicon coating would be too thin (1 micron) to carry charges. Thus, the array is added.
 
I wonder how the photoelectric layer is supposed to be efficient and use the light energy falling on it, yet it let's light through it so that you can see the display. The more light the cell absorbs, the brighter the display would need to be - and hence would need more electrical power?
I guess, if the display were off for most of the time, that might not be a problem but it would need a large off/on time ratio. Also, a very directional display could help: hence the lenticular screen.
 

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