Young's Experiment (destructive interference)

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The discussion revolves around Young's experiment, specifically focusing on the conditions for destructive interference in a double-slit setup. Participants are examining the relationship between the slit separation, the distance to the screen, and the wavelength of light based on measured minima positions.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning the use of different formulas for destructive interference, specifically whether to use (m - 1/2) or (m + 1/2) in the context of minima positions. There are discussions about the implications of these choices on the calculated wavelength.

Discussion Status

There is an active exploration of the differing interpretations of the formulas used for destructive interference. Some participants suggest that both approaches could yield valid results depending on the definitions and measurements used, while others express confusion regarding the correct application in this scenario.

Contextual Notes

Participants note discrepancies between different textbooks regarding the conditions for destructive interference, highlighting a potential source of confusion. The discussion also emphasizes the importance of understanding the specific definitions of variables such as Δy and their implications in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement



I'm having some trouble understanding the following solved problem:

In Young’s experiment, narrow double slits 0.20 mm apart diffract monochromatic light onto a screen 1.5 m away. The distance between the 5th minima on either side of the zeroth-order maximum is measured to be 34.73 mm. Determine the wavelength of the light.

Solution:

Position of mth minima relative to central maximum is:

##(m-\frac{1}{2}) \lambda = a \ sin \theta =\frac{ay_m}{L} \implies y_m = \frac{L(m-\frac{1}{2})\lambda}{a}##

Distance on the screen between the 5th minima on either side of the central maximum is:

##\Delta y = y_5-y_{-5} = \frac{(4.5-(-4.5))L \lambda}{a} = \frac{9L \lambda}{a}##

##\therefore \ \lambda = \frac{\Delta y a}{9L} = 514 \ nm##

I don't understand why they have used ##(m-\frac{1}{2}) \lambda## as the condition for destructive interference, instead of ##(m+\frac{1}{2}) \lambda##?

Homework Equations



For destructive interference my textbook uses:

##d \ sin \theta_{dark} = (m+\frac{1}{2}) \lambda##

(this is an approximation)

The Attempt at a Solution



If I use -1/2, then 5th minima turn out to be are 9λ apart, just like the model answer.

However when I use +1/2 I get a totally different solution:

##\therefore \ \lambda = \frac{\Delta y a}{(5.5-(-5.5)) L}= \frac{\Delta y a}{11 L} =421 \ nm##

So, why do they use -1/2? And which method is correct? :confused:

Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
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I think both you and your book might be wrong on this one. I'm getting ##1029nm## as the answer.

I used: ##\frac{wx_n}{L} = (n - \frac{1}{2}) \lambda##

Where ##n## represents a nodal line number.
 
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Zondrina said:
I think both you and your book might be wrong on this one. I'm getting ##1029nm## as the answer.

I used: ##\frac{wx_n}{L} = (n - \frac{1}{2}) \lambda##

Where ##n## represents a nodal line number.

No, that's wrong because you are not given y, you are given ##\Delta y##.
 
My textbook ("Optics" by Hecht) uses "m+1/2", while my other book ("Introduction to Optics" by Pedrotti) uses "m-1/2" for destructive interference. The two methods clearly produce different results! :confused:

Why in this particular situation, do we need "-1/2" and not "+1/2"?
 
roam said:
No, that's wrong because you are not given y, you are given ##\Delta y##.

No, you are not given ##\Delta x##.

##\Delta x## represents the distance between two consecutive nodal or antinodal fringes.

##x_n## represents the distance from a minimum to the right bisector (central maximum).

The distance between the 5th minima on either side of the zeroth-order maximum is measured to be 34.73 mm

They are not talking about the distance between two consecutive node/antinodal fringes, rather the distance from the 5th minima on either side of the fringe pattern to the right bisector.

Also, because the fringe pattern is symmetric, I believe it wouldn't matter whether you used ##(n - 1/2)## or ##(n + 1/2)##.

It depends on which direction the author likes to measure I believe.
 
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Zondrina said:
No, you are not given ##\Delta x##.

##\Delta x## represents the distance between two consecutive nodal or antinodal fringes.

##x_n## represents the distance from a minimum to the right bisector (central maximum).

You are using a different notation. I never defined ##\Delta y## as the distance between consecutive fringes! It is the distance between the position of 5th minima on one side, to the 5th minima on the other.

##y## itself is the linear positions of fringes measured along the screen from the bisector you mentioned.
 
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roam said:
You are using a different notation. I never defined ##\Delta y## as the distance between consecutive fringes! It is the distance between the position of 5th minima on one side, to the 5th minima on the other.

##y## itself is the linear positions of fringes measured along the screen from the bisector you mentioned.

Indeed I use a different notation myself, but that really doesn't change the logic too much.

Just use ##\frac{wy}{L} = (n - \frac{1}{2}) \lambda## then.
 

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