You've had one phone interview, then HR calls

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around how to respond to salary expectation inquiries during job interviews, particularly when approached by HR after an initial phone interview. Participants explore various strategies, the implications of providing a salary figure, and the dynamics of salary negotiations in different contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest using phrases like "going rate" or "commensurate with my experience" to avoid stating a specific number, viewing the question as a potential trap.
  • Others argue that providing a number can demonstrate decisiveness and may not necessarily be a trap, depending on the employer's perspective.
  • A few participants emphasize the importance of knowing one's own value and the potential risks of undervaluing or overvaluing oneself by providing a figure.
  • One participant notes that if a candidate is currently employed, it may not be a trap question, as they are unlikely to accept a lower salary than their current one.
  • There are differing opinions on whether HR has a predetermined salary range in mind, with some asserting that HR typically knows the salary landscape for the position.
  • Several participants highlight the importance of researching salary ranges prior to interviews and considering total compensation, including benefits.
  • Some express skepticism about the ability to negotiate benefits like vacation or pension plans, suggesting these are often fixed by the company.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to salary discussions. There are multiple competing views regarding whether to provide a salary figure, the nature of the question, and the role of HR in the negotiation process.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the variability in employer practices and the influence of individual circumstances, such as current employment status and industry standards, on salary negotiations. There is also recognition of the limitations in information available to job seekers compared to HR departments.

Who May Find This Useful

Job seekers preparing for interviews, individuals interested in salary negotiation strategies, and those exploring employment practices in various industries may find this discussion relevant.

  • #31
Pengwuino said:
Who cares. You could go into finance and get 6-figures and all you have to do is sell your soul.

On the other hand going into finance is not a good idea for this sort of thing because:

1) you have to deal with the standard job hunting headaches in finance.

2) $100K in NYC is not going to get you very far. NYC has a marginal tax rate of 45% and it will cost you $2000/month for a decent apartment

3) You'll feel extremely poor. If you make $70K but everyone around you makes $50K, you feel rich. If you make $100K but you come into daily contact with people that make $1M+, you feel very, very, very poor. Also, if you don't have your head screwed on straight, you can get into serious, serious financial trouble very quickly.

There are good reasons for going into finance, but making large amounts of money so that you can feel rich curiously isn't one of them.
 
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  • #32
KingNothing said:
I care. It hurts! I understand what you are saying, that my happiness shouldn't depend at all on the fairness of a situation and the salaries of others. But the truth is I am human and it's just not the case. I worked really hard and want to make more money than others who didn't!

As others have said, ditch that attitude - it was cute in junior high, but will ruin you in the real world. Don't try to one-up the Joneses as they say. If you REALLY want to make more money than other people, there are plenty of ways to do it. Hell, for all you know, your friends could be lying. They could be doing something they dislike or may have no job security or could end up in a company that will go belly up next year. They could also end up millionaires with their own airplanes, who knows. It only affects you as much as you let it.
 

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