YoYo rolling on ground (checking work mostly)

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a YoYo modeled as a solid cylinder with mass M and radius R. The original poster is tasked with finding the net torque on the YoYo about the instantaneous point of contact with the ground, while also considering its moment of inertia and angular acceleration.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the moment of inertia and torque, but encounters difficulty in determining the angle between the force vector and the position vector. Some participants suggest using trigonometry to find the coordinates of the force's point of application to aid in this calculation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and providing suggestions for overcoming the identified challenges. There is no explicit consensus yet, but guidance has been offered regarding the use of trigonometric methods.

Contextual Notes

The original poster has indicated that the geometry of the situation is complex, which may be contributing to the difficulty in finding the necessary angle for the torque calculation.

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Homework Statement



See post #3 Assume the YoYo is a solid cylinder with mass M and radius R for all parts!

Homework Equations



Lots?

The Attempt at a Solution



Part A - Find the moment of inertia about the center of mass and the point of contact with the ground:

ICOM = 1/2 MR2
IIPoC = 1/2 MR2 + MR2 = 3/2 MR2 by parallel axis theorem

Part B - Calculate the torque on the Yoyo about the center of mass, and the net horizontal force.

Torque = r x F = rF since r is perp to F
Fnet x = F cos θ

Part C - What is the angular accel. of the yoyo about its center of mass? Linear acceleration?

Torque = rF = Iα α = rF/I α = 2rF/MR2

and since alin = αr
a = 2r2F/MR2

Part D - Find the net torque about the instantaneous point of contact

Ok here's where I get stuck. Torque = rF sin σ , where σ is the angle between the applied force F and the r vector, right? Well no joke the geometry is complex. I can't find any way to get the angle between these two, here's what I've got so far:
Untitled2-2.jpg


σ is the angle between the two blue lines, which represent the force and the r vector. I've also extended the force line so you can see the line of action, if it helps.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
 
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Can you at least describe the problem and what you are asked to find.
 
The picture you see above is the bottom half of a YoYo of mass M. The inner axle has a radius r and the outer radius is R. The string is wrapped under the axle and being pulled gently so the YoYo rolls to the left without slipping.

Untitled-2.jpg


Im asked to find the net Torque on the YoYo about the instantaneous point of contact with the surface. Trouble is I can't find the angle between the vectors, which is what the above diagram is trying to accomplish.
 
With a bit of trig you should be able to find the coordinates of the point of application of the force, thus you can find the position vector of the force and the angle it makes with the horizontal.
 

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