Z^3-1=0 (express using de moivres theorum)

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The discussion revolves around finding solutions to the equation \( z^3 - 1 = 0 \) using De Moivre's theorem. Participants explore the polar representation of complex numbers and the implications of the theorem in this context.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the polar form of complex numbers and the conditions for \( r \) and \( \theta \) when applying De Moivre's theorem. There is an exploration of possible values for \( \theta \) that satisfy the equation, with some participants questioning the periodic nature of trigonometric functions.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing insights and hints regarding the values of \( r \) and \( \theta \). Some have identified one solution, while others are encouraged to find additional solutions by considering different angles.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the periodicity of trigonometric functions and the focus on values of \( \theta \) within a specific range. There is an emphasis on understanding the implications of these constraints in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement



Use De Moivre's theorem to obtain solutions to the equation (Z^3)-1=0

Homework Equations



z^n= rθ^n(cosnθ+isinnθ)

The Attempt at a Solution



I am having difficulty on figuring out how to meld the equation to De Moivres Theorem
 
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Daaniyaal said:

Homework Statement



Use De Moivre's theorem to obtain solutions to the equation (Z^3)-1=0

Homework Equations



z^n= rθ^n(cosnθ+isinnθ)

The Attempt at a Solution



I am having difficulty on figuring out how to meld the equation to De Moivres Theorem

Write z=r(cos(θ)+isin(θ)). So you have z^3=1. What are the possibilities for r and θ? Start with r. By convention we pick r>=0. What must r be?
 
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Dick said:
Write z=r(cos(θ)+isin(θ)). So you have z^3=1. What are the possibilities for r and θ?

r would be 1 and θ=0 right?
 
Daaniyaal said:
r would be 1 and θ=0 right?

Good start! That's one solution. Can you find two more? Try to think of other values of θ that might work. cos(3θ) has to be 1 and sin(3θ) has to be 0.
 
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Dick said:
Good start! That's one solution. Can you find two more, try to think of other values of θ that might work.

ok so

z^3= 1^3(cos(3θ)+isin(3θ))
 
Daaniyaal said:
Arghh I can't think of anything, do they have anything to do with our "special triangles"? the 45-45-90 one and the 30-60-90 one? I've thought of multiple sin and cos values and none of them are giving me the right answer :( apart from the previous one I have listed.

Not so special. cos(2π)=1 and sin(2π)=0. Suggest a value for θ using that.
 
dick said:
not so special. Cos(2π)=1 and sin(2π)=0. Suggest a value for θ using that.


2pi!
 
Sorry I keep taking too many hints, I get it after I post that I don't understand
 
The number "1" has "polar form" r= 1 and \theta= 0 because the number 1= 1+ 0i is represented by the point (1, 0) which is at distance 1 from (0, 0) and angle 0 with the positive x-axis. Alternatively, x= 1+ 0i= 1(cos(0)+ i sin(0)).

Now, cosine and sign are periodic with period 2\pi. So the x-axis, in addition to being "\theta= 0" is also "\theta= 2\pi" and "\theta= 4\pi".

(As well as "6\pi" or "9\pi" or even "-2\pi", etc. but those are not important. Do you see why?)
 
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HallsofIvy said:
The number "1" has "polar form" r= 1 and \theta= 0 because the number 1= 1+ 0i is represented by the point (1, 0) which is at distance 1 from (0, 0) and angle 0 with the positive x-axis. Alternatively, x= 1+ 0i= 1(cos(0)+ i sin(0)).

Now, cosine and sign are periodic with period 2\pi. So the x-axis, in addition to being "\theta= 0" is also "\theta= 2\pi" and "\theta= 4\pi".

(As well as "6\pi" or "9\pi" or even "-2\pi", etc. but those are not important. Do you see why?)
Because it is really the same position right? 2pi=4pi in terms of position on the circle?
 
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Daaniyaal said:
2pi!

True. But we are mainly interested in values of θ between 0 and 2π. The others are really just 'copies'. If you put θ=2π you get the same z value as θ=0. I was hoping you'd say 2π/3. Do you see why that works and is more interesting?
 

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