Zero momentum distribution and consequences on uncertainty principle

In summary, when the momentum distribution (sigma p) equals zero and the expectation values for momentum (<p>) and <p^2> are also zero, the uncertainty relation results in a finite value of 0>or=h/4Pi. This suggests that at a very small scale, quantum mechanics breaks down and the uncertainty relation cannot be applied. Additionally, a zero expectation value does not necessarily imply a zero uncertainty, but if <p^2> is also zero, the uncertainty is indeed zero. However, this scenario is not possible for a solution to the Schrödinger equation.
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hoju
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What happens if the momentum distribution (sigma p) equals zero. Say the expectation value for the momentum (<p>) and <p^2> are zero. Then you will get 0>or=h/4Pi. How can this be possible? Or vice versa, what if sigma x equals zero?
 
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That's not possible, indeed.
So the more accurately one measures the momentum, the less accurately one knows the position. When [itex]\sigma p \to 0[/itex], therefore, [itex]\sigma x \to \infty[/itex] and vice versa.
You can interpret this as saying that not only is it impossible to measure position or momentum with infinite precision, but even that the theory tells you so!
Or you can interpret this as saying that at some very small scale [itex]\sigma x < L[/itex] quantum mechanics breaks down and the uncertainty relation cannot be applied anymore anyway.
 
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A zero expectation value doesn't imply a zero uncertainty.
 
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No but if in addition <p^2> = 0 then the uncertainty [itex]\sqrt{\langle p \rangle^2 - \langle p^2 \rangle}[/itex] is zero.
 
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CompuChip said:
No but if in addition <p^2> = 0 .

It never is for a solution to the Schrödinger equation.
 
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I appologize for my ignorance. I am a new learner as well, and just trying to figure out the meaning of quantum mechanics rather than just doing some algebra. However, what if a wave function is just a real constant? Will not we get a zero fluctuation in momentum?
 
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caduceus said:
However, what if a wave function is just a real constant?

I believe that's impossible, a real wavefunction couldn't satisfy the Schrodinger equation.
 

1. What is a zero momentum distribution?

A zero momentum distribution refers to a particle or system of particles that have no overall movement or momentum. This means that the particles are stationary or have equal and opposite momenta that cancel each other out.

2. How does a zero momentum distribution affect the uncertainty principle?

The uncertainty principle states that there is a fundamental limit to how accurately we can measure certain pairs of physical properties, such as position and momentum. In a zero momentum distribution, the uncertainty in momentum is zero, meaning that the uncertainty in position is infinite. This is because the particles have no momentum to determine their position.

3. What are the consequences of a zero momentum distribution on the uncertainty principle?

The consequences of a zero momentum distribution on the uncertainty principle are that the uncertainty in position becomes infinitely large, making it impossible to know the exact position of the particles. This challenges our ability to accurately measure and understand the behavior of these particles.

4. What experiments have shown evidence of zero momentum distributions?

Experiments with high-energy particles, such as protons and electrons, have shown evidence of zero momentum distributions. These particles can be confined to a small space, causing their momenta to cancel out and resulting in a zero momentum distribution.

5. How does a zero momentum distribution relate to the concept of wave-particle duality?

The concept of wave-particle duality states that particles can exhibit both wave-like and particle-like behavior. In a zero momentum distribution, particles behave more like waves, as their position becomes uncertain and spread out. This highlights the dual nature of particles and their behavior in different scenarios.

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