Zero Resistance? Non-Physicist Asks About Superconductivity

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of superconductivity, specifically addressing the notion of zero resistance in superconductors. Participants explore the implications of this concept, its experimental verification, and the nuances of resistance in different contexts, including DC and AC scenarios.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the term "zero resistance" in superconductivity is literally accurate or if it refers to a very low but non-zero resistance, based on their experiences with MRI magnets.
  • Another participant asserts that it is literally zero, indicating that the upper bound for resistivity is determined by experimental limits, with no measurable voltage drop exceeding the minimum resolvable signal.
  • A subsequent reply suggests that there is no theoretical basis for resistance in superconductors, highlighting the lack of measured resistance with current experimental resolutions.
  • Another participant introduces the idea of RF resistance in superconductors, implying that resistance may not be entirely absent under certain conditions.
  • One participant speculates that the original poster may be considering only DC resistance and notes that AC resistance is influenced by the mass of charge carriers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of resistance in superconductors, with some asserting it is zero while others point out conditions under which resistance may still be relevant. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the complete absence of resistance in all contexts.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on experimental capabilities and the distinction between DC and AC resistance, which may not have been fully addressed in the discussion.

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Hi,
As an interested non-physicist, may I ask a possibly naive question concerning superconductivity? It seems that every reference I ever see regarding superconductivity, they always refer to resistance as zero. Now, I've had the opportunity in my previous work to measure large currents in MRI magnets and it always impressed me to see not one whit (engineering term) of decrease in current over periods of years of uninterrupted service. Still, the concept of zero resistance is so counterintuitive, even after reading about cooper pairs, etc, that I've always wanted to ask:
Is it literally zero or some really low but non-zero figure?
 
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It is literally zero in the sense that the upper bound for the resistivity is set by experimental capability - no experiment I know of has measured a non-zero voltage drop across a SC that exceeded the minimum resolvable signal.
 
Thanks for the reply. So I'll assume that there is no theoretical basis for a resistance, which is what I was wondering. Still, with the resolutions available to experimenters these days, it is interesting that no resistance has been measured.
 
There is rf resistance in superconductors.
 
I'm guessing the OP has only DC resistance in mind. Besides, the AC resistance has more to do with charge carriers having a non-zero mass.

Zz.
 

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