Zhenxin Painting - An Artwork by Tom Hinst

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The discussion revolves around the song "Zhenxin," associated with Tom Hinst's artwork, exploring its lyrics, translations, and connections to various artists, including Jackie Chan and Emil Chow. Participants engage in sharing interpretations, translations, and personal insights about the song and its cultural context.

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  • Exploratory
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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express appreciation for the song's lyrics, with PrudensOptimus providing a translation that is noted to be challenging due to the complexities of translating from Chinese to English.
  • There is a suggestion that the song may be connected to Jackie Chan, with some participants questioning the nature of the song and its intended themes.
  • KLscilevothma mentions that the melody of the song is similar to another song they like, prompting discussions about the lyrics and their meanings.
  • PrudensOptimus and others discuss the differences between traditional and simplified Chinese characters, indicating that understanding may vary among speakers from different regions.
  • Participants share opinions on the popularity of various Chinese artists, such as Fay Wong and F4, with some expressing uncertainty about their fame in different areas.
  • Monique seeks recommendations for traditional Chinese music, indicating a desire to explore beyond pop songs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion contains multiple competing views regarding the lyrics and their translations, with participants disagreeing on whether the lyrics are the same across different versions of the song. There is no consensus on the interpretations of the song's themes or the popularity of the artists mentioned.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of familiarity with Chinese music and language, which may influence their interpretations and discussions. The conversation reflects a mix of personal insights and cultural references that are not universally understood.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in Chinese music, song translations, and cultural discussions surrounding lyrics may find this thread engaging.

  • #31
Originally posted by Monique
Actually a long time ago in Boston, or New York.. or was it LA? Don't even remember I bought some tapes with Asian music, I guess they are vietnamese:

So I am not interested in pop music, more in traditional singing.

Just to clarify, basically you like Asian groups singing traditional Asian songs? those are boring

I have some songs, but more from Asian pop bands and most are sang in English and their native language.
 
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  • #32
Originally posted by KLscilevothma
Fay Wong is very very very famous! She was born in Bei Jing. When she was eight years old (IIRC), she and her family moved to Hong Kong. Not only is she famous in China and Hong Kong SAR, but also in Japan and other parts of the world.

You know what? KL is a nerd who knows nearly nothing about pop singers but knows a lot about old songs which don't really belong to the younger generation. F4 is a very new group from Tai Wan and I just did a little research about them. They are very famous in Hong Kong and Tai Wan, but I'm not sure whether they are famous in mainland China.

By the way, how did you know F4 ? [?] By some kind of secret source like the one Ivan has?

It's a well guarded secret Actually I just have a lot of asian friends and aquaintances.

Ivan has a secret source? source of what? Gold? Diamonds? Rubies? Punky power?
 
  • #33
Originally posted by The_Professional
Just to clarify, basically you like Asian groups singing traditional Asian songs? those are boring

I have some songs, but more from Asian pop bands and most are sang in English and their native language.


Different cultures have different styles, speak for yourself bud.
 
  • #34
Ivan has a secret source?
I think he has one, but it is classified as top secret.

... more coming soon (hard translation).
PrudensOptimus, that's why I'm asking for your help as you can translate better.
 

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