Does Coriolis really cause water to drain one way?

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The discussion centers around the claim that the Coriolis effect causes water to drain in different directions in the Northern and Southern hemispheres. Participants explore whether this phenomenon is a myth or if there is any validity to the claims, particularly in relation to experimental demonstrations and the actual forces at play in draining water.

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  • Some participants assert that the Coriolis effect is too weak to influence the direction of water draining, suggesting that the observed behavior is a myth.
  • Others point out that disturbances in the water basin, such as dirt or previous motion, can affect the draining direction, potentially skewing results in demonstrations.
  • A participant mentions that videos showing the effect may be misleading due to the setup of the experiments, implying that the conditions are manipulated to achieve the desired outcome.
  • There is a reference to previous discussions on the forum that have addressed this topic, indicating that it has been a recurring theme among participants.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the Coriolis effect is not a significant factor in the draining of water, but there is disagreement on the extent to which this is a myth versus a misunderstood phenomenon. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the validity of the experimental demonstrations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the influence of random perturbations in the water basin may overshadow any potential Coriolis effects, but the exact conditions and assumptions under which these claims hold true are not fully explored.

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This discussion may be of interest to those curious about fluid dynamics, the Coriolis effect, and common misconceptions in physics, particularly in relation to everyday phenomena.

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We've all heard that water spirals down the drain in a clockwise direction in the Southern hemisphere and counter- (or anti-) clockwise in the Northern hemisphere, due to the Coriolis effect from the rotation of the Earth. I've also heard that this is a myth, and that if you calculate the actual forces involved, those due to Coriolis are negligibly small compared to the random perturbations that typically occur in a basin of water that was filled relatively recently (or otherwise disturbed). The latter sounds likely to me, yet the "myth" persists, and moreover, you can see demonstrations of it on YouTube: .

In this video, it appears that the water behaves as advertised, even though the basins are displaced from each other by no more than 10 meters or so. Yet, the one on the North side of the equator drains clockwise, the one on the South the opposite, and most amazingly, the one right on the equator doesn't swirl at all, but just drains straight down the hole!

How can this be? I thought the Coriolis force depended on a change in the radial component of position, but in these cases it's hard to see how that's not completely negligible.
 
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The water effect is a myth; Coriolis forces are nowhere near that strong. If you do a forums search, you'll find quite a comprehensive thread about it elsewhere in PF.
 
If you look at the third "experiment" there is a bit of dirt in the bowl before he let's the plug out. This is already moving in a circular fashion, so it suggests that the water is poured into a bowl in a clever way so that it drains however they want it to.

This is the most common misconception, in my opinion. In the past, no-one has believed me when I tried to argue against it, so I've given up trying now! As danger says, a search of the forums will return a lot of threads on the topic.
 
Okay, thanks for confirming my suspicions. We can drop this thread, since it's been covered before.
 

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