Recent content by Les Sleeth

Mr. Dawkins did claim the article found here - http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2005/04/30/dawkins/index.html" - that "billions of clues" and "millions of facts" support evolution, and he said it in a way that gives the clear impression the whole of Darwinism is supported by those clues...

Well, evolution is the best example I know of where belief is coloring the picture presented to the public. The Dawkins quotes you deleted show him doing what I've seen done many times, which is to state there is vast evidence ("billions of clues") like that evidence supports every bit of...

It isn't a fair comparison. I am not trying to exclude an entire realm of knowledge, as scientism believers are. Further, the realm they want to exclude they know nothing about; they simply want to exclude it because they can't study it within their belief system. I, on the other hand...

First, I have not in any way, shape or form challenged the efficacy of science. I understand it is a method of investigation, and it most definitely produces knowledge. So let's not have any more defenses of science because it doesn't need it. Yes, science is stuck with a physical...

Well, if the only "discoveries" you allow to be added to the mix are physical discoveries, why don't you think that is a filter? But I don't judge scientists at all, what I am judging is a type of mentality. Some scientists have it, some don't. As I have said many times here at PF, I...

Be careful what you represent me as saying. I have never said science doesn't reveal the physical world to us better than any other approach. What I did say is that it is one thing to claim you are discovering the physical world, and another to claim the universe is nothing but...

First let me apologize for being less than clear about my point, and that I made it off topic from original thread. My main point is what a priori “belief” does to objectivity and our ability to conduct intelligent discussions. It appears to me from your statements that you “believe” lots of...

I so 100%, totally, beyond all doubt, agree. :tongue2: If I understand you, a "believer" cannot be objective. If that isn't what you meant, please feel free to ignore the rest of my post. Now, you seem to criticize theories that "are not particularly scientific." Does that mean you...

I wrote a bunch of stuff, but after thinking about it I deleted it. Maybe what you say here is more important than differences in the details.

You are just misunderstanding me. I said that in this discussion I am not trying to argue whether there is a heaven or hell, or whether there is not heaven and hell (what I believe about them is irrelevant to my point). I have only been trying to argue that burning forever in hell cannot be...

If you examine how the majority of people are, we want to feel good, and personally I think that is our nature. The problem is, we don't know how to achieve it full time. Most people have concepts about what will make them happy, from being the smartest person or the best athelete to having...

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Good answer. I should have said without others saving your sorry a**.

. . . you get a job to clean up an old house. You descend to the basement and find a single Superman comic book sitting innocuously next to the long-broken dehumidifier. You open the comic book to find a Bizarro edition of the series where Superman is in a world that is reversed. If he says...

Fine so far. I didn’t say both thieves went to paradise; I said there is nothing Jesus is recorded as saying that clearly indicates because one doesn’t end up in paradise means one ends up burning in hell for eternity. I am not arguing the truth of falsity of hell or heaven, only what we can...

There is no evidence, and it is utterly illogical to assume, that hell is what he didn't speak. And what should we substitute for our own experience? Religious dogma passed down from . . . who knows? I haven't disputed choice, I have disputed that saying the thief could be in heaven has...