Lightweight Ceramic Solutions for Large Electrical Projects

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Lightweight ceramic materials are sought for large electrical projects, emphasizing the need for properties like electrical isolation and temperature insulation while reducing weight. Alternatives such as carbon fiber were discussed, but concerns about its conductivity arose. Suggestions included aerogel for heat resistance and glass microsphere-filled ceramics to maintain electrical and thermal properties while decreasing weight. Various plastics like Lexan, Ultem, and thermoset polymers like Bakelite were mentioned, with caution advised regarding Bakelite's toxicity during machining. The conversation highlights the challenge of finding suitable lightweight materials that meet specific electrical and thermal requirements.
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I need ceramic for a very large electrical project. The problem I have is weight. I would like to find a material with all the properties of ceramic (electrical isolation, temperature insulation, armourment, ability to design for any shape), but it needs to be a lot lighter.

I thought there might be some types of plactics or fiberglas that I could use, but I've no idea.

Price won't be a problem. The material is needed. Anyone with ideas?
 
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Carbon Fiber

JMD
 
Last time I checked, CF was an electrical conductor not an insulator.

CF's got some great properties - some that exceed ceramic. But, insulation is my primary need. :)
 
Aerogel if it can take the heat.

How about a glass microsphere filled ceramic? It might lose a little compressive strength along with its weight loss but should otherwise retain electrical and thermal properties.

What temperature range are we talking about? I believe some of the Ren plastics can handle injection molding stress and temps. They list a casting resin here that goes to 408F for a 264psi deflection test:
http://www.freemansupply.com/tables/renepoxycasting.htm
And here's a laminating resin that's listed as 460F:
http://www.freemansupply.com/tables/renepoxylam.htm

Cliff
 
I remember testing the optical properties of some plastics that were supposed to have good thermal and mechanical properties. They were:

Lexan - reinforced with glass fibers
Ultem - as above
Acrylonitrile Butadiene Styrene
Polyetheretherketone
Duron

Some of them had deformation issues. They would deform long before melting.

Njorl
 
Njorl said:
I remember testing the optical properties of some plastics that were supposed to have good thermal and mechanical properties. They were:

Lexan - reinforced with glass fibers
Ultem - as above
Acrylonitrile Butadiene Styrene
Polyetheretherketone
Duron

Some of them had deformation issues. They would deform long before melting.

Njorl

Then perhaps a thermoset, rather than a thermoplastic polymer would be in order. Something like Bakelite?
 
Bakelite is very useful, but very toxic when you machine it. Be careful. I used it for a device once. I was lucky, I just drew up what I wanted and told some pros to make it.

Njorl
 
Where can I find chemicals for Bakelite? From what I've searched, it seems to be somewhat like fiberglas? I haven't found any detailed information about it - links anyone?
 
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