Fundemental disadvantages of traditional rockets

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Traditional rocket designs, such as the Ares and Saturn 5, face significant disadvantages including limited reusability and high fuel consumption, which contribute to their operational costs and risks. The incompatibility with existing airport infrastructure is also highlighted, although some argue that rockets are fundamentally different from airplanes. Concerns about safety arise from the potential for catastrophic failures during launches, which can result in the loss of expensive payloads. Comparisons to advanced spaceplanes like the Skylon suggest that future technologies may address these issues, particularly with developments like the SABRE engine. Overall, the discussion emphasizes the need for innovations in space travel to enhance reliability and accessibility.
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What are the fundamental disadvantages to traditional rocket designs, such as the Ares (1 and 5), Saturn 5, Delta series, etc?

So far I've come up with incompatibilities with existing airport infrastructure and a partial or total lack of reusibility (what parts are reusable need to be fished out of the ocean).

Especially in comparison to something like the skylon or some other advanced spaceplane, can anyone think of other disadvantages, or just disadvantages in general? I'm not very knowledgeable in this subject. Thanks.
 
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Rockets require a tremendous amount of fuel.
 
Rockets like to explode. Exploding very expensive payload is bad.
 
So they are fundementally unsafe?
 
I wouldn't say that. Is anything 'safe'? A car isn't. It's a matter of reliability, i.e., how does it's statistics of successful to unsuccessful launches compare (I think it's pretty low).
 
aquitaine said:
What are the fundamental disadvantages to traditional rocket designs, such as the Ares (1 and 5), Saturn 5, Delta series, etc?

So far I've come up with incompatibilities with existing airport infrastructure and a partial or total lack of reusibility (what parts are reusable need to be fished out of the ocean).
Disadvantages compared to what and for what purpose? Why is incompatibility with airports relevant? Rockets aren't airplanes.
Especially in comparison to something like the skylon or some other advanced spaceplane, can anyone think of other disadvantages, or just disadvantages in general?
Well spaceplanes in the traditional sense don't exist, so I'm not sure that is a reasonable basis for comparison either.
 
Disadvantages compared to what and for what purpose? Why is incompatibility with airports relevant? Rockets aren't airplanes.

True, but for space travel to become more common, having launch systems that are mostly compatible with existing infrastructure would be very helpful.

Well spaceplanes in the traditional sense don't exist, so I'm not sure that is a reasonable basis for comparison either.

With the current development of the SABRE engine that might finally change in the next 10 years. Right now it's more of a thought experiment (yet another one of my infamous thought experiments :P).
 
Why should space travel be more common, where do you plan on going?
 
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Why should space travel be more common, where do you plan on going?


Any number of reasons. One immediate thing I can think of is the ability to go into orbit to drasticly cut travel times on long distance flights. Unless you're ok with 14+ hour flights across the Pacific. And really, who is to say there aren't plenty of opportunities for economic expansion? Why can't we use the natural vacuum of space (or the moon for that matter) to fabricate materials that would be so easily done on Earth? What about R&D? Somehow, sometime, somewhere, an entrepreneur will see an opportunity and make a fortune out of it. It's happened in other endevours and it will happen again in space.
 
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aquitaine said:
Any number of reasons. One immediate thing I can think of is the ability to go into orbit to drasticly cut travel times on long distance flights. Unless you're ok with 14+ hour flights across the Pacific. And really, who is to say there aren't plenty of opportunities for economic expansion? Why can't we use the natural vacuum of space (or the moon for that matter) to fabricate materials that would be so easily done on Earth? What about R&D? Somehow, sometime, somewhere, an entrepreneur will see an opportunity and make a fortune out of it. It's happened in other endevours and it will happen again in space.

Eventually. But I agree.
 
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