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The discussion focuses on understanding how to handle square roots when solving equations, particularly in the context of Pythagorean equations. Participants emphasize the importance of squaring both sides of an equation to eliminate square roots, while also noting the necessity of checking solutions against the original equation to avoid extraneous results. The concept of square roots as multivalued functions is introduced, clarifying that the principal square root is defined to be non-negative. Additionally, resources like Wikipedia are suggested for further reading on the theory behind square roots. The conversation highlights the need for a solid grasp of these mathematical principles to solve related problems effectively.
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Hi,

I need help with an explanation of how to deal with squareroots when solving equations.
E.g. Look at the uploaded bmp.file and solve for x. Please I would like to have a full step by step method on how to deal with this type of equations in general. Thank you
 

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krislemon said:
Hi,

I need help with an explanation of how to deal with squareroots when solving equations.
E.g. Look at the uploaded bmp.file and solve for x. Please I would like to have a full step by step method on how to deal with this type of equations in general. Thank you

Sorry but it's forum rules that we can't just give you a full step by step solution. You need to show you've put some effort into the problem yourself.

Start by squaring both sides, then show us what you've done.
 
ok.
I managed to solve the problem so I will just ask about the squareroot.
Where can I find the theory/rule of canceling squareroot? e.g. (squareroot of x)^2.
 
krislemon said:
Where can I find the theory/rule of canceling squareroot? e.g. (squareroot of x)^2.

I'm not sure what you're asking exactly. The theory of cancelling the square root? Squaring is the inverse of the square root (cancelling the square root) as you've shown.

If you want to read a bit more on square roots, maybe try wikipedia? Or you'll need to be more specific.
 
When solving problems of this kind, one can square both sides and manipulate until no square roots remain. But when squaring, the implication goes only forward. Therefore, one must check all solutions one finds by inserting them into the original equation.

For example, squaring the equation ##\sqrt x =-1## gives ##x=1##. The first equation can therefore have no solution other than ##x=1##. But if we insert this in the first eqaution, we obtain ##\sqrt 1=-1##, which is false. Therefore, ##x=1## is not a solution either, so the first equation has no solutions.
 
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When solving problems of this kind, one can square both sides and manipulate until no square roots remain. But when squaring, the implication goes only forward. Therefore, one must check all solutions one finds by inserting them into the original equation.

For example, squaring the equation ##\sqrt x =-1## gives ##x=1##. The first equation can therefore have no solution other than ##x=1##. But if we insert this in the first eqaution, we obtain ##\sqrt 1=-1##, which is false. Therefore, ##x=1## is not a solution either, so the first equation has no solutions.

I hope you took the square root function in the sense of the principal branch, for if you did not, we have that \sqrt{} is a multivalued function, having precisely two values for every real number other than 0, and it is one-valued for 0. Taking the square root as multivalued yields -1\in \sqrt{1}, which is true, for (-1)^2=1. However, the square root in the principal branch is defined as the positive answer to the multivalued square root, making it one-valued. In general, \sqrt[n]{} is a multivalued function, having n values for all complex numbers and 1 for 0. For example, the real number 2 has three cube roots: \sqrt[3]{2} which is the positive root, and two complex roots: \displaystyle -\frac{\sqrt[3]{2}}{2}+\frac{\sqrt[3]{2}\sqrt{3}}{2}i and \displaystyle -\frac{\sqrt[3]{2}}{2}-\frac{\sqrt[3]{2}\sqrt{3}}{2}i. We avoid this problem by defining the result of a rooting operation to satisfy these if x is real:

\sqrt[n]{x}'s principal branch value is defined so as to be the unique real number a satisfying a\in\sqrt[n_m]{x} and a\geq 0, where \sqrt[n_m]{} denotes the multivalued version of the nth root.

I just wanted to point that out to avoid confusion.
 
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