What is the Relationship Between Input Shaft Angle and Torque in U-Joints?

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The discussion centers on the relationship between input shaft angle and torque in U-joints, highlighting that increased angles significantly reduce the torque capacity of the joint. Specifically, a U-joint rated for 300 ft-lb at a 3-degree angle may only handle 100 ft-lb at a 10-degree angle, indicating a dramatic drop in performance as angles increase. Lower RPMs can mitigate wear but may lead to torque magnification when reducing speed from a high RPM motor. The effectiveness of this approach depends on the specific setup of the drive mechanism. A physical test with a torque wrench is proposed to gather empirical data on torque changes at various angles.
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Hello,

I need to select an appropriate electric motor for a drive mechanism which includes a U-Joint. It's understood that rotational variances occur in U Joints as the angle of the input shaft increases relative to the output shaft. Can someone refresh my memory as this relates to torque? In other words, is there a percentage increase in torque to drive the input shaft as its angle increases to say 15, 30, 45, 90 degrees relative to the output shaft that stays at 0 degrees? If so, what's the percentage increase at each increment - or at least a general rule of thumb?

Many thanks.

Bret
 
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It's not so much the change in torque that is the problem with shafts coupled by U-joints. The life of the joint is greatly reduced once the angle increases beyond a very small amount, unless the torque applied to the joint is greatly reduced.

For instance, if a given shaft and joint is rated to transmit 300 ft-lb of torque at an angle of 3 degrees, the same shaft will only be capable of transmitting 100 ft-lb of
torque if the angle increases to 10 degrees.

For larger angles, U-jointed shafts are not practical.
 
Thanks SteamKing. Good thing that I asked. I seem to remember now about this limitation but didn't remember it to be as dramatic. I may need to reconsider the electric motor. However, don't you think that at least the wear issue could be reduced by going with lower RPMs , say under 100 RPM or even a manual crank?
 
It depends on what kind of motor you want to use. If you have a motor turning at high speed (say 1800 rpm) and you wish to reduce the output speed to 100 rpm, then the speed reduction will also result in a torque magnification. For instance:

1 ft-lb at 1800 rpm = 18 ft-lb at 100 rpm

It's hard to suggest anything without knowing more about how your drive mechanism is situated between the motor input and the output of the drive mechanism.
 
What I'll do then is jig a physical test with a torque wrench, create some resistance constant, and see what the readings are with each change of the angles. I'll post my findings.
 
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