Can you sort molecules by speed based on temperature?

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Temperature in liquids is indeed proportional to the average speed of molecules. However, the concept of sorting molecules by speed to create a higher temperature liquid from a colder one is theoretically flawed. The idea suggests extracting faster molecules from a 30-degree water sample to yield a hotter 50-degree sample, but this is not feasible in practice. The discussion references Maxwell's Demon, which illustrates the complexities of such a separation. Ultimately, while temperature relates to molecular speed, practical methods to achieve the proposed sorting do not exist.
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Can someone explain if my understanding is correct- that temperature of say a liquid is proportional to the speed of the molecules?

My idea is if there was a way to sort different molecules by speed, could you say in theory, take 1litre of water at 30degrees and pick out the fastest molecules and say have 50mls of water at 50degrees C leaving the remainder 950mls at 28 degrees centigrate etc?
 
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Excuse me ? No one asked to contribute to my question, so that sort of attidude not required thanks. The post you reference does not answer the point about 'sorting out' the fasted moving molecules.

My question is if there was some way to sort molecules could you get some hotter water out of some colder water - in theory
 
why the hell are you going off at me for? remember this question:
colin9876 said:
Can someone explain if my understanding is correct- that temperature of say a liquid is proportional to the speed of the molecules?

that link I gave you answered that question. Not to mention, all I said was search your questions before asking - it's a sticky thread if you havn't noticed.

to your molecule question: If there was a way to sort out molecules; the question would then be how do you separate the hotter molecules from the colder ones?

rough estimates or exactly?
 
colin9876 said:
Can someone explain if my understanding is correct- that temperature of say a liquid is proportional to the speed of the molecules?

My idea is if there was a way to sort different molecules by speed, could you say in theory, take 1litre of water at 30degrees and pick out the fastest molecules and say have 50mls of water at 50degrees C leaving the remainder 950mls at 28 degrees centigrate etc?
It's a tricky question, with an answer that is more subtle than one might think. The short answer is: no, it won't work. As to why, you'll have to do some more reading, as this the answer is more involved than a forum will really allow.

Read up on Maxwell's Demon - it deals directly and exactly with what you are asking.
 
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