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Can a man and woman be friend?

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Dembadon
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Mar17-11, 11:54 AM
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Quote Quote by Mentallic View Post
It's hilarious at how many posts we've had so far that answer the question

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I'll add another one.

My wife's best friend and I are good friends. I can't speak for her, but I'm not sexually attracted to her in any way; she's just a fun person to be around.

However, I have a penis and she has a vagina. It would be foolish to ignore the possibility of things getting sexual, even though it is very unlikely. It's not like we hang out alone while drinking alcohol and eating chocolate covered fruits, but I would never put myself in such a situation; it's foolish and unnecessary.
ahitztafloor
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Mar18-11, 12:14 PM
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I have alot of friends that are guys and from my point of view we have a normal person to person relationship. But thats from just my point of view; their thoughts about our friendship is a mystery to me.
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Quote Quote by Tregg Smith View Post
I have friends that are girls and I'm attracted to everyone of them.
I hope you are!
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Mar18-11, 01:00 PM
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Quote Quote by ahitztafloor View Post
I have alot of friends that are guys and from my point of view we have a normal person to person relationship. But thats from just my point of view; their thoughts about our friendship is a mystery to me.
True, and it would be kind of awkward for a female to ask her male friends, "So, are you attracted to me?" Best that the question not be asked. I certainly don't want to know the answer !
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Mar19-11, 12:56 AM
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totally off topic but multiquotes is totally awesome!!

Quote Quote by turbo-1 View Post
When you click as friends, GRAB IT! You can have lots of love interests come and go, but a real friend? Rare. Don't confine yourself to your own gender when looking for friends. You're denying yourself access to half of the "friend pool" when doing that.
Gender doesn't come into mind when I make friends. But it's harder for me to make befriend with a guy. They either have no interest in being my friend or want more than a friendship. Lolz, maybe I'm just not friend materials.

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I think this all depends on your definition of a friend. If you have about 0 things in common with someone, would you consider them a friend?

Also, I do have to say that for me personally, whether it is because I'm a guy or not, I am ALWAYS drawn towards women in a sexual way. Doesn't matter if I'm "supposed" to feel that way or not, (like feelings towards someone elses GF/Wife) it isn't something I can turn off. Control? Definately. But turn off? Not a chance. I'd be willing to bet many guys feel the same way. I can say that its MUCH easier to avoid getting into any questionable situations by simply not hanging out with women.
neither my sisters or close friends share the most of the things that interest as me. Yet I still love them! And that's the weird thing. I share more interest with the guys, yet I have no close guy friend.

Quote Quote by Tregg Smith View Post
I have friends that are girls and I'm attracted to everyone of them.
LOL

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True, and it would be kind of awkward for a female to ask her male friends, "So, are you attracted to me?" Best that the question not be asked. I certainly don't want to know the answer !
Agree. I would (almost) never ask a guy that. But at the same time, if a guy shows sign of interest and I'm not interest in him, I try to keep a distance cuz I don't want to lead him on.
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Quote Quote by Mentallic View Post
It's hilarious at how many posts we've had so far that answer the question

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Lolz does that mean women don't feel the same way? They don't think they can be friends with men without being sexually attracted to them?

I wonder if everyone who answer to this has a gf/wife/bf/husband/life partner/whatever else you want to call them
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Mar19-11, 01:25 AM
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Quote Quote by sourlemon View Post
Lolz does that mean women don't feel the same way? They don't think they can be friends with men without being sexually attracted to them?

I wonder if everyone who answer to this has a gf/wife/bf/husband/life partner/whatever else you want to call them
Human relationships are complex. I have a distant cousin that I have known for years longer than I have known my wife. I was romantically attracted to her. There was a not-insignificant age difference when I was in college, so my focus moved to ladies in my university. Years later, she and my wife ended up working in a mill together, and she and her husband and their daughters became fixtures at our house on holidays, special occasions, etc. Now, her girls are grown and gone, but we are all still friends. And that's it. Friends. If I needed her, I'd call her, and she could get my support just as easily in tough times. We have been friends now for over 40 years.

On my 40th birthday, she convinced three of her sisters to gang up and "kidnap" me for a night of bar-hopping. I used to play music at some of those joints, and in the weeks afterward, younger guys would come up to me and ask where I got that posse. The tiniest one was the wife of the chief of police and was the designated driver, and she was getting all kinds of free drinks and foisting them on me. Later, it occurred to me that with such beautiful cousins, they could probably have asked for shots of single-malt scotch when guys wanted to buy them drinks.
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Apr15-11, 05:41 AM
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before the sex. then after the sex. in all but 1 case for me. the exception is my ex wife who is very unfriendly.
Lichdar
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Apr15-11, 05:52 AM
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Sure. Do you have a mother? Is she a friend to you?

Are you sexually attracted to her?
TheStatutoryApe
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Apr16-11, 06:12 AM
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I find the idea that one would be attracted to a person who does not possess any of the qualities they look for in a friend rather odd. Similar the other way around. Why are you interested in being friends with someone who possesses no qualities which attract you?
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I find the idea that one would be attracted to a person who does not possess any of the qualities they look for in a friend rather odd. Similar the other way around. Why are you interested in being friends with someone who possesses no qualities which attract you?
Agreed. I develop friendships with guys because we have common interests, or they make me laugh etc. With girls, it's a lot harder to find common interests when they're into... you know... girl stuff - yet I still have as many girl friends as I do guy friends.
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Apr16-11, 01:32 PM
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I personally cannot be friends with a girl I find physically unattractive. I also believe that friends can have sex while still being friends.

I will also say that a lot of people my age (early 20's) play naive about their friends' intentions.
Nicholasng925
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Apr16-11, 08:34 PM
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Well it actually depends! I have lots of guy friends but only one close guy friend! And that's because I have some common interests with him.

I enjoy hanging out with girls too! They are just so fun to be mingled around. I wouldn't say I'm attracted to all of them apparently, but maybe only one at a time. I like to make them laugh, cause I like cheerful people. I enjoy having conservation with girls more than guys, and I don't know why. LOL!
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I also believe that friends can have sex while still being friends.
That would be awesome! But from my experiences, still being friends with them as though nothing ever happened is kind of difficult. It's like the moment your spouse turns into your ex, you most probably will have sour feelings towards them.
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Apr16-11, 10:33 PM
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Quote Quote by Lichdar View Post
Sure. Do you have a mother? Is she a friend to you?

Are you sexually attracted to her?
Is your name Sigmund Freud by chance?
JhonMoney
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Apr18-11, 12:05 AM
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i think your question is that the male and female can be friend without taking any interest in love............
Lichdar
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Apr18-11, 02:05 AM
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In all seriousness...

Of course, although it is always a relative measure. There's no reason why a man and a woman cannot have a friendship on a basis of common interest that's completely separate from any romantic attraction.

That said, there is always a strong bias toward inclination of romantic attraction - especially if its a more emotional nature of friendship. Intimacy is one of the components of romance, so a deep personal friendship already would begin to share some of the components of a romantic relationship. If there's also a physical attraction, as could be expected of boys and girls, that's when the lines are regularly blurred.

Selection bias is there too. I certainly don't only befriend members of the opposite sex that I find attractive, but there's a strong tendency toward that. It seems uncharitable that someone mentioned that men see in women either potential girlfriends or mothers - but in more emotional friendships, I can't deny that there's a strong role toward that. Either my female friends tend to be older and get treated fairly maternal, or they tend to be in the, essentially, nubile range.

I think that friendship is separate from sexual attraction; what happens is that sexual attraction has a tendency to strongly bias one to interact with a person, and that can lead to increased odds of friendship, and then people fall comfortably into 'roles.'

Case example: There's one lovely dark-haired girl with stunning green eyes that I talk to regularly; but there's really not that much common ground(I don't even speak her language well - she speaks mostly French!). Yet there's something about me that clearly enjoys being able to enjoy the company and flirt heavily with her, leading me to /find/ common ground with her. She also provides very consistent emotional support when I ask for it and acts impressed otherwise, and tells me secrets - its not too hard to see it to be a vague precursor to a romantic relationship. More or less the same is true of another girl, also someone I find attractive. I believe people slip into roles and something along the intimacy of an almost sexualized friendship becomes comfortably acceptable.

All of this would most likely stop and come crashing down at actual sex, though. I've no intention of testing that out. And I don't really think it has a lot to do with love - that seems an unnaturally strong word for a bit of physical attraction and comfort in the usual gender roles.
pergradus
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Apr29-11, 07:46 PM
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Quote Quote by Greg Bernhardt View Post
Of course. One of my best friends is female and I am not sexually attracted to her.
Is that because you're good friends, or because you wouldn't have found her attractive anyways?


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