Springs: Speed when released & distance traveled.

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The discussion focuses on calculating the speed of a block as it passes through the equilibrium position of a spring and the distance it travels before coming to rest under friction. The speed at the equilibrium position, calculated using the formula v = √[k/m (A^2 - x^2)], is determined to be 0.5 m/s. For the distance traveled before stopping, the work-energy principle is applied, leading to a consistent result of 0.05 m (5 cm) using both energy conservation and kinematic equations. Participants emphasize the importance of using correct values and recognizing that the block's final velocity is zero due to friction. The discussion highlights the need for careful application of physics principles in problem-solving.
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A 1.6 kg block is pushed into a spring with spring constant of 1.0 x 10^3 N/m. The spring is compressed a distance of 2.0 cm [0.02m], and the block is released from rest in the horizontal direction.

(a) Calculate the speed of the block as it passes through the equilibrium position at x = 0, if the surface is frictionless.

(b) How far does the block travel before coming to rest? Assume a constant friction force of 4.0 N and the same initial conditions as before.
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Formula I used for (a)

v = √[k/m (A^2 - x^2)]

v = √[1000/1.6 (0.02^2 - 0^2)]
v = 0.5m/s

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Not sure about (a), But I have no clue as to (b)..

Should I used the work formula?
Work (J) = Force x distance
 
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Part a is correct.

Hint: Use Newton's second law followed by kinematic equation relating velocity, acceleration, and distance. Or use work energy relationship.
 
This should work for (b):

Conserving energy:
(1/2)×k x2 = f * d

where, k is spring constant, x is the compression of the spring, f is the frictional force, d is the distance traveled by the block before coming to a halt.
 
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AudioFlux said:
This should work for (b):

Conserving energy:
(1/2)×k x2 = f * d

where, k is spring constant, x is the compression of the spring, f is the frictional force, d is the distance traveled by the block before coming to a halt.

This gave me the same result [5cm, 0.05m] as one of the ways I tried it originally:

[v^2 = u^2 + 2ad]
Where:
a = F/m = 4N / 1.6kg = 2.5ms^-2
v = 0.5ms^-1
u = 0ms^-1

(0.5)^2 = (0) + 2 (2.5) d
0.25 = 5d
d = 0.25/5
d = 0.05m [5cm]

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Your method:
(1/2)×k x^2 = Ff * d
Where:
Ff = 4N
k = 1000
x = 0.02

(1/2)× (1000) (0.02^2) = 4 * d
500 x 0.0004 = 4 * d
0.2 = 4 * d
d = 0.2 / 4
d = 0.05m [5cm]
 
Bradyns said:
This gave me the same result [5cm, 0.05m] as one of the ways I tried it originally:

[v^2 = u^2 + 2ad]
Where:
a = F/m = 4N / 1.6kg = 2.5ms^-2
v = 0.5ms^-1
u = 0ms^-1

(0.5)^2 = (0) + 2 (2.5) d
0.25 = 5d
d = 0.25/5
d = 0.05m [5cm]

firstly, you put incorrect values into the formula v2=u2+2ad
v is the final velocity, u is the initial velocity. the final velocity has to be 0, as the block stops due to frictional force. secondly, you have taken the velocity that you obtained from (a), which is the velocity of the block if frictional force was not acting. also, the acceleration should be negative, because the block is decelerating due to the frictional force. also,

d = 0.25/5
d = 0.05m [5cm]

if you want to get the answer using your method, first find the velocity of the block where it leaves the spring, you can do this using energy conservation. now you can apply v2=u2+2ad
 
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