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Jul23-12, 04:39 PM   #18
 

Is this a short, marvelous proof of Fermat's Last Theorem?


Simon Bridge: Your conversions are helpful and accurate. I would like to use LaTex, however, when I hit the "quote button" nothing happens. I am in "Quick Reply."
I will send the answers I wrote today tomorrow. The site kicked them out when I tried to send them.

willacaleb
Jul23-12, 04:43 PM   #19
 
Sending to check the quote fuction.
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Simon Bridge: Your conversions are helpful and accurate. I would like to use LaTex, however, when I hit the "quote button" nothing happens. I am in "Quick Reply."
I will send the answers I wrote today tomorrow. The site kicked them out when I tried to send them.

willacaleb
Jul23-12, 04:58 PM   #20
 
I think he means to press the "QUOTE" button. That way, you will see the raw tex code and can use it as a template and as examples to do your own stuff.
Jul23-12, 05:57 PM   #21
 
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Clicking the "quote" button at the bottom-right of one of my posts should send you to the advanced editor with everything I wrote in quote tags at the top. The math stuff will be inside tex and itex tags.

Crash course:

So
Code:
[tex]\frac{x^2+y^{2-x}}{z_a^b} \neq \sqrt{z^n}[/tex]
renders as [tex]\frac{x^2+y^{2-x}}{m_a^b} \neq \sqrt{z^n}[/tex]
... chosen to have everything you'd needed so far in one place.

From that you can see:
Powers and subscripts work the way you think they do - use curly brackets to group terms.
Special terms have a back-slash in front of them and they operate on whatever is inside the curly-brackets after them. i.e. to make a fraction you use \frac{a}{b} for [itex]\frac{a}{b}[/itex] and the square root is sqrt{a} for [itex]\sqrt{a}[/itex] but [itex]\sqrt{ab} \neq \sqrt{a}b[/itex] (\sqrt{ab} \neq \sqrt{a}b) and [itex]x^24 \neq x^{24}[/itex] (x^24 \neq x^{24}) see?

There's lots of handy stuff like you get all the Greek characters just by typing their name after a backslash - capitalize the first letter to get the upper-case character.

If you want to put an equation inline like that - use the "itex" tags, otherwise use "tex" tags.

If you use the [itex]\Sigma[/itex] button in the advanced editor, it will also give you the latex codes.

I think there's a quick overview of the PF-Latex codes somewhere - and there are no end of online resources.

Now you give it a go ;)
Jul23-12, 06:02 PM   #22
 
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I think there's a quick overview of the PF-Latex codes somewhere - and there are no end of online resources.
Yes, there is: http://www.physicsforums.com/showthr...=1#post3977517
Jul24-12, 01:00 AM   #23
 
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@micromass: thanks.
Jul24-12, 12:52 PM   #24
 
Thanks very much for the information regarding LaTex. Because of several obligations I am going to spend a few days formulating what I hope is a full response to each comment and question to date. I have been thinking about the general area of concern expressed in most of the responses and I think it centers around my 'Case 3' and 'Case 3's' reference to 'Case 1'. I want to respond to each comment in particular and elaborate Case 3. To do that I need more time than my obligations allow at the moment.
Again, thank you for your comments and your information.

Willacaleb
Jul25-12, 09:26 AM   #25
 
A short reply:
Last night I think I realized where the sticking point is in many of the comments recieved to date: Is it valid in Case 3 to use Case 1? I say it is valid because Case 1 is the only congruent number relation, i.e., 1 = 1, of the three relations of the Trichotomy Law. And since the assumption of equality in Case 3 requires a congruent number relation, it requires the use of Case 1. Otherwise, we would be working with non-congruent numbers, i.e., 1 < > 1, which would be meaningless.
The purpose of, ± u^2, in Cases 2 and 3 is to ensure congruent number units.

willacaleb
Jul25-12, 10:44 AM   #26
 
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A short reply:
Last night I think I realized where the sticking point is in many of the comments recieved to date: Is it valid in Case 3 to use Case 1? I say it is valid because Case 1 is the only congruent number relation, i.e., 1 = 1, of the three relations of the Trichotomy Law. And since the assumption of equality in Case 3 requires a congruent number relation, it requires the use of Case 1. Otherwise, we would be working with non-congruent numbers, i.e., 1 < > 1, which would be meaningless.
The purpose of, ± u^2, in Cases 2 and 3 is to ensure congruent number units.

willacaleb
Yes, but the problem is that case 1 applies ONLY IF [itex]x^2 + y^2 = z^2[/itex] and in case 3 you assume that [itex]x^2 + y^2 > z^2[/itex]. So, I don't know where case 1 comes from. Also, I am confuesd about why you expend so much energy in case 3 to deduce that [itex]x^2 + y^2 > z^2[/itex] when this was assumed at the start. Why can't you apply case 1 right then and there?


Also, I am concerned that it took you roughly 20 lines for case 1 and case 2 - which are trivial - and about 5 or so lines for case 3 - which is the hard case. This right there sends up red flags.
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This has been discussed enough. The proof is not valid. The crucial mistake is refering to Case 1 when proving Case 3, this is not allowed.

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