# Hooke's law for a balloon?

by johne1618
Tags: balloon, hooke
 P: 373 Hi, For a linear spring one has Hooke's law: $F = k x$ Is there an equivalent law for a spherical elastic balloon giving pressure inside as a function of radius? Thanks, John
 P: 505 Here's a good place to start http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulk_modulus Bulk modulus would describe how the pressure of the balloon reacts to the additional pressure over atmosphere that the balloon exerts. However, I don't think it will tell you the actual pressure the balloon exerts.
 Sci Advisor P: 2,210 I tried to see if I could derive such a law, and I got a result that is a little counter-intuitive, so it's possible I made a mistake somewhere. Here's the idea: Think of a little rectangle made of balloon material. It has a length and a width. If you stretch it to increase its length, it's just like stretching a spring. So it's going to require an amount energy $\frac{1}{2} k L^2$ to stretch it to length $L$, where $k$ is some spring constant that depends on the balloon and possibly how big the rectangle is. (That's actually not quite right; it really should be something like $\frac{1}{2} k (L-L_0)^2$, where $L_0$ is the equilibrium length. I'm going to simplify things by taking the limit as $L_0 \rightarrow 0$). Similiarly, stretching it to increase its width will require an amount of energy proportional to $\frac{1}{2} k' W^2$ (again ignoring the equilibrium width). So the total energy associated with a rectangle of length $L$ and width $W$ will be just $\frac{1}{2} (k L^2 + k' W^2)$. If we assume that it's a square, so that $L = W$ and $k = k'$, then we get the total energy of a square with side $L$ will be $k L^2$. That can be rewritten as $k A$, where $A$ is the area of the little square of balloon. Assuming that there is this same amount of energy stored in every little square of the balloon, we conclude that the same formula applies for the entire balloon: $E \propto A \propto r^2$ where I used $A = 4 \pi r^2$ for a spherical balloon. I'm using $\propto$ to mean "proportional to", which means I'm not keeping track of constants like $\pi$ and $k$, etc. So that's a pretty sensible result, it seems to me, the energy due to stretching for a balloon is proportional to the square of the radius. We can rewrite the above formula for $E$ to get it in terms of volume, using $V \propto r^3$ $E \propto V^\frac{2}{3}$ That's still sensible: The more you increase the volume of the balloon, the more energy is required. But here comes the counter-intuitive part. The relationship between pressure (the force per unit area required to keep the balloon expanded) and energy is given by: $P = \dfrac{dE}{dV}$ Using our formula for $E$, we get: $P \propto V^\frac{-1}{3}= \dfrac{1}{V^\frac{1}{3}}$ There's the counter-intuitive part. As you expand the balloon more and more, the pressure needed to keep it expanded goes DOWN. I feel like that can't possibly be right. On the other hand, it is true from experience that when blowing up a balloon, it's hardest when the balloon is small, and gets easier when the balloon is bigger. But I always assumed that was a failure of Hooke's law, that the forces holding the balloon together got weaker as it stretched, instead of increasing linearly. Anyway, assuming that this analysis is right, the conclusion for the balloon version of Hooke's law would be (converting back from volume to radius): $P = K/r$ The pressure required to inflate a balloon to radius $r$ is inversely proportional to $r$.
 Mentor P: 5,370 Hooke's law for a balloon? A balloon is a rubber sheet that is undergoing large deformation biaxial stretching, and its "stress-strain behavior" is non-linear. One of the key characteristics of rubber is that it is virtually incompressible, so the volume of the rubber sheet remains constant. If the balloon were a perfect sphere, the surface area of the rubber sheet would be $4\pi r^2$ and its thickness (assumed uniform) would be h, so its volume would be $4\pi r^2h$. Initially, you would need a small (virtually insignificant) amount of initial pressure to snap the balloon into its initial spherical shape. If the initial radius was r0 and the initial thickness of the rubber was h0, then the initial volume of the balloon rubber would be $4\pi r_0^2h_0$. But, since rubber is incompressible, the initial and final volumes of the rubber would have to be the same, so that $$\frac{h}{h_0}=(\frac{r_0}{r})^2$$So, as the balloon inflates, the thickness of the rubber decreases as the square of the radius. The amount that the balloon rubber stretches can be characterized by the biaxial stretch ratio. The rubber sheet surface stretches equally in all directions (for a sphere), and the distance along a great circle between any two points on the sphere increases in proportion to the ratio of the present radius to the initial radius. This ratio is called the stretch ratio λ:$$\lambda=\frac{r}{r_0}$$ So, in terms of the stretch ratio, the rubber thickness h is given by:$$h=\frac{h_0}{\lambda^2}$$ In general, rubber is a very non-linear elastic material, and the tensile stress within the sheet σ (force per unit area) will be a non-linear function of the stretch ratio λ: $$\sigma=\sigma(\lambda)$$ The next step in this development is to do an equilibrium force balance so that the stress can be expressed in terms of the pressure difference between the inside and outside of the balloon, the balloon sheet thickness h, and the balloon radius r. If you do an equilibrium force balance on the balloon, you will find that the biaxial tensile stress in the balloon rubber σ is related to the balloon radius r, the rubber thickness h, and the difference in pressure between inside and outside the balloon (pin - pout) by: $$\sigma(\lambda)=\frac{r(p_{in}-p_{out})}{2h}$$ If we combine this equation with the equations I presented previously in the development, we get: $$\frac{\sigma(\lambda)}{{\lambda} ^3}=\frac{r_0(p_{in}-p_{out})}{2h_0}$$ The functional relationship σ(λ) between the tensile stress σ and the stretch ratio λ is unique to the particular rubber comprising the balloon, and is independent of the geometry of the specific system under consideration ( as characterized by r0 and h0). For this reason, σ(λ) is referred to as a material function for the particular rubber. Since the entire left hand side of the above equation is a function only of λ, it too is a material function for the rubber, now designated by $\hat{\sigma}(\lambda)$: $$\hat{\sigma}(\lambda)=\frac{r_0(p_{in}-p_{out})}{2h_0}$$ If the functional relationship $\hat{\sigma}(\lambda)$between the stress parameter $\hat{\sigma}$ and the stretch ratio λ were known in advance, then we could use the above equation to predict, for any arbitrary balloon geometry (r0 and h0), the relationship between the pressure difference $(p_{in}-p_{out})$ and the inflated balloon radius r. Alternately, we could, for a specific balloon, experimentally measure the right hand side of the equation as a function of the measured stretch ratio λ, and thereby determine the functional relationship $\hat{\sigma}(\lambda)$ experimentally. We could then use that relationship for all other balloons of different r0 and h0 involving the same rubber to predict its inflation behavior. We could also determine the required functionality by doing experiments on flat sheets of rubber. Chet
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 Quote by Chestermiller A balloon is a rubber sheet that is undergoing large deformation biaxial stretching, and its "stress-strain behavior" is non-linear.
Your analysis is very thorough, but I got that the idea was to give a law giving an idealized balloon, in the same way that Hooke's law describes an idealized spring. No actual spring obeys $F = -k x$ except as a first-order approximation. So the question is, what is an analogous first-order approximation governing a balloon?
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P: 5,370
 Quote by stevendaryl Your analysis is very thorough, but I got that the idea was to give a law giving an idealized balloon, in the same way that Hooke's law describes an idealized spring. No actual spring obeys $F = -k x$ except as a first-order approximation. So the question is, what is an analogous first-order approximation governing a balloon?
The real question should not focus specifically on a balloon, but rather on the relationship between stress and deformation for rubber in general, and then, based on this, for rubber sheets (under so-called plane stress loading conditions). For a metal, the general version of Hooke's law provides a linear relationship between the stress tensor and the so-called small strain tensor. For rubber, which is capable of exhibiting large elastic deformations, you need to describe the kinematics of the deformation using the so-called finite strain tensor. For such a material, the strain energy is a non-linear function of the three principal stretch ratios of the material, and is equal to zero when all three principal stretch ratios are equal to unity. To gain entry into the relationship between the strain energy, the stress tensor, and the deformation tensor for rubber, google Mooney-Rivlin. This should get you started.

If you are just looking for a linear relationship for a balloon that applies in the limit of very small perturbations to an initially "uninflated" balloon, just take σ(λ) = E(λ-1) (where E is an elastic material constant), and λ≈1 in the balloon equation I presented. However, what you end up with will not be very satisfying because the actual equation is very non-linear, and the analysis will thus not extend to anything realistic.

Chet