Independence in Poisson Process

In summary, the conversation is about the Poisson Process and the issue of dependence. The expected number of events in a given time interval is Rt, and the probability of a specific number of events is given by e^-Rt*(Rt)^n/n!. The question is whether the number of observations in a smaller "peek window" is independent of the total number of observations. While the number of events in a smaller window may be independent, the overall number of events in the observation space may still be dependent. Both parties may be correct in their understanding, as they are discussing different aspects of the Poisson Process.
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I'm studying the Poisson Process (rate R) and I'm hung up on the issue of dependence. This seems like and easy question but I have no background in probability whatsoever.

By definition, the number of events in disjunction time intervals are independent. Okay. Fine. But say we have an overall "observation window" of time [0,t]. By definition, the expected number of events in t is

E[N(t)] = Rt

and the probability of exactly n events in time t is

P{N(t)=n} = e^-Rt*(Rt)^n/n!


Say we have a small "peek window" of [0,s] where s<t. Will the number of observations when you get to peek be independent of the total number of observations? My intuition is no, but a colleague with considerably more expertise is saying yes.

If we know there are exactly n observations at time s, it would seem that the likelihood of having exactly that same n at a later time would have to decrease (relative to the odds if you didn't get to peak). If you know for certain that you ALREADY have n, then you'd be less likely to END with n because the Poisson Process doesn't decrease.

Any thoughts? Links to resources?

Thanks
 
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Divide the observation space O into two parts, A and B. The number of Poisson events in B is independent of the number of Poisson events in A (where A is the area you "peeked" at), but the number of Poisson events in O is dependent.

If you observe 10 events in A, then O cannot have 0 to 9 events, so clearly they're dependent. But the essence of the Poisson distribution is that A does not influence B.

My guess is that you colleague is saying that A ans B are independent while you are taking about A and O. In that case both of you could be right.
 

FAQ: Independence in Poisson Process

What is a Poisson process?

A Poisson process is a type of stochastic process that models the occurrence of random events over time. It is often used to model the arrival of customers in a queue, the number of website visits, or the occurrence of rare events.

How is independence defined in a Poisson process?

In a Poisson process, independence refers to the fact that the occurrence of one event does not affect the occurrence of another event. This means that the number of events that occur in a given time interval are not influenced by the number of events that occurred in previous time intervals.

Why is independence important in a Poisson process?

Independence is important in a Poisson process because it allows for the use of certain mathematical properties and formulas. For example, if events in a Poisson process are independent, the number of events that occur in a given time interval follows a Poisson distribution, which makes calculations and predictions easier.

How can we determine if a Poisson process is independent?

To determine if a Poisson process is independent, we can look at the data and see if there is a relationship between the number of events that occur in different time intervals. If there is no apparent relationship, then we can assume that the process is independent.

Can a Poisson process be both independent and dependent?

No, a Poisson process cannot be both independent and dependent. It is either one or the other. If there is a relationship between the number of events in different time intervals, then the process is dependent. If there is no relationship, then the process is independent.

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