Calculating Rotational Force on Knee Joints for Karate Stances

In summary, The stress placed upon knee joints by low karate stances can be calculated by assuming a body weight of 200 pounds and using the formula for calculating force on a joint at different angles. However, there are other factors such as surface area and positioning of ligament connections that may affect the calculation. It is also important to consider the distance from the pivot point of the knee to the point of attachment for ligaments. A simplified model assuming a simple hinge joint and evenly distributed connecting tissues may not accurately reflect the actual stress on the knee joint.
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I'm trying to calculate the stress placed upon knee joints by low karate stances.

If I assume a body weight of 200 pounds, with a shin length of 18 inches and a thigh length of 24 inches, how can I calculate the force placed upon the knee joint when the thigh is:

verticle above the shin
at 45 degrees to the shin
at 90 degrees to the shin
at 105 degrees to the shin

Please provide formulae so that I can apply to other situations.

Thanks very much in advance
 
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If the 200lb person is not moving, and the legs are equi-distant from the center of mass, then each knee supports 100lbs, plus any tension force required to hold the position. Surface area of the knee joint contact point is a factor, as well as the positioning of the connection points for ligaments; these factors vary a bit from person to person.

The information I don't have is the distance from the effective pivot point of the knee to the point of attachment for the ligaments that are in turn attached to muscles that are supplying a supportive force to hold the position.
 
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Oh my goodness! I didn't realize it was that complicated.

Is it not possible to use a greatly simplfied model that assumes a simple hinge joint and evenly distributed connecting tissues spread across its width?

In the first instance, I'm simply trying to work out the increase in stress on the joint as the angle of the thigh increases. I read somewhere that it was equivalent to three times the normal body weight at 90 degrees, but I was hoping to get the maths to prove it...
 

1. How do you calculate the rotational force on knee joints for karate stances?

The rotational force on knee joints for karate stances can be calculated using the formula: torque = force x distance. The force is the weight of the body, and the distance is the distance between the center of mass and the knee joint. This calculation can also be affected by factors such as the angle and velocity of the movement.

2. What are some common stances in karate that can put rotational force on knee joints?

Some common stances in karate that can put rotational force on knee joints include the front stance, horse stance, and cat stance. These stances often require the practitioner to shift their weight and rotate their body, putting stress on the knee joints.

3. How does the body's center of mass affect rotational force on knee joints in karate stances?

The body's center of mass plays a crucial role in calculating the rotational force on knee joints for karate stances. The further the center of mass is from the knee joint, the more torque will be exerted on the joint. This is why maintaining proper balance and control of the center of mass is essential in preventing injury.

4. Are there ways to reduce rotational force on knee joints in karate stances?

Yes, there are ways to reduce rotational force on knee joints in karate stances. One way is to focus on strengthening the muscles around the knee joint to better support it and absorb the force. Another way is to practice proper form and technique to distribute the force evenly throughout the body, rather than putting all the strain on the knee joints.

5. How important is it to consider rotational force on knee joints in karate training?

Considering rotational force on knee joints in karate training is crucial for preventing injuries and maintaining overall joint health. As karate involves many rotational movements, it is essential to understand and calculate the force exerted on the knee joints to avoid overexertion and potential damage. Proper form and technique, as well as strengthening exercises, can help minimize the impact on knee joints during training.

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