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l-1j-cho
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Didn't Austria-Hungary start the war after the murder of Sarajevo?
l-1j-cho said:conventional historians mean the historians who made historical judgement firstly, am I right? So in this case, historians who recorded the affairs right after the war
croghan27 said:Great analysis S W VC - good to hear from someone that knows what they are talking about.
Thanks croghan, but when it comes to history, it's about what historians write as much as what actually happened
save that the Muslem thing was a late comer on the scene - France in WWII needed all sorts of Muslems, primarily from Algeria, in battling Mr. Hitler - so they were not primarily seen as opponents, but as allies.When you look at this turbulent time, it's easy to see how much events of this period helped shape the modern world. WWII and the Cold War have their origins in the aftermath of WWI as does the current situation between the West and the Muslim world.
croghan27 said:No argument about: save that the Muslem thing was a late comer on the scene - France in WWII needed all sorts of Muslems, primarily from Algeria, in battling Mr. Hitler - so they were not primarily seen as opponents, but as allies.
Conventional historians have blamed Germany for the outbreak of WW1 because they believe that Germany's aggressive foreign policy and desire for power and expansion were major contributing factors to the tensions and alliances that ultimately led to the war. They also point to Germany's decision to declare war on Russia and France, as well as their use of unrestricted submarine warfare, as key actions that escalated the conflict.
There is evidence that supports the idea that Germany was responsible for the start of WW1, such as the "Blank Check" given to Austria-Hungary to declare war on Serbia, which was seen as a direct provocation to other European powers. Germany's aggressive actions in the Balkans and their militarization also contributed to the growing tensions and alliances between countries. Additionally, the infamous Zimmerman Telegram, where Germany proposed an alliance with Mexico against the United States, further solidified the belief that Germany was seeking to expand its power and influence.
While conventional historians often place the majority of the blame on Germany, there were other countries and factors that played a role in the start of WW1. For example, the complex system of alliances and treaties between European powers created a tense environment and made it difficult to avoid war once it had started. The assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria-Hungary by a Serbian nationalist was also a significant event that led to the outbreak of war.
Yes, there have been alternative theories that challenge the idea that Germany was solely responsible for the start of WW1. Some historians argue that the blame should be shared among multiple countries and that the war was a result of a series of complex events and decisions made by various leaders. Others point to the role of economic and imperial competition between European powers as a contributing factor to the outbreak of war.
The perception of Germany's role in WW1 has changed over time as new evidence and perspectives have emerged. In the aftermath of the war, Germany was heavily blamed and punished through the Treaty of Versailles. However, in more recent years, there has been a shift towards a more nuanced understanding of the complex factors that led to the war. While Germany is still seen as a significant contributor, the blame is no longer solely placed on them, and other countries and factors are also considered.