Surface and Volume Integrals - Limits of Integration

In summary: If you mean the points at which the curve crosses the x-axis, then those are the hard limits. If you mean the points at which the curve crosses the y-axis, then those are also the hard limits, but there are other points along the curve where the limit is not so clear.
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Bruce Dawk
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So I am trying to understand how and why the limits of surface and volume integrals come about. I think I came up with a easy to understand argument but not a mathematically sound one. Frankly its a little dodgy. Can anyone provide feedback on this argument or provide a better and possibly more mathematically sound explanation?

In single integrals where y = f(x) we do ∫f(x)dx, this is because it is solely the x values that draw out the curve that we are interested in so the limits are based on the values of x that we are interested in. In double integrals for the most general case both x and y determine the shape of the curve, as a consequence we can't simply just integrate over x by placing the hard limits of x, rather we express the x limits as functions of y as we accept that they are related and once we work out the x integral we say well, we have taken into account the dependency of x that y has, so now let's just treat this as a single integral and integrate over the hard limits of y.
 
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x and y determine the shape of the surface, not the curve. You must determine the limits for x and y respectively depending on the region which Is given.

So each case will be different depending on the surfaces you are given to integrate over.
 
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The only connection the region of integration has to the surface is that the region lies in the domain of the surface. The reason one would express a limit of x as a function of y is when one integrates a region that has a boundary that isn't constant at all its points (with respect to x). An example would be if the region is a right triangle or something. The hypotenuse of the triangle has some equation that describes it as a line with a restricted domain. When you integrate first in the x-direction, the equation tells the integral when to stop collecting x-elements ( or where to start). The equation of the line contains x's and y's only because it is within the same coordinate system. I'm not sure what you mean by "hard limits of x."
 

Related to Surface and Volume Integrals - Limits of Integration

1. What is the difference between surface and volume integrals?

Surface integrals calculate the flux or flow of a vector field over a surface, while volume integrals calculate the total value of a function over a 3-dimensional region.

2. How do you determine the limits of integration for a surface integral?

The limits of integration for a surface integral are determined by the bounds of the surface itself. In other words, they are the range of values for the parameters that define the surface, such as x, y, and z coordinates.

3. Can the limits of integration for a surface integral change?

Yes, the limits of integration can change depending on the problem at hand. For example, if the surface has different boundaries or is defined in a different coordinate system, the limits of integration will need to be adjusted accordingly.

4. How do you determine the limits of integration for a volume integral?

The limits of integration for a volume integral are determined by the bounds of the 3-dimensional region being integrated over. These bounds are typically defined by the x, y, and z coordinates of the region's boundaries.

5. Are there any special cases for determining the limits of integration for surface and volume integrals?

Yes, there are some special cases where the limits of integration may differ from the standard method. For example, if the surface or region is defined in a non-Cartesian coordinate system, the limits of integration will need to be adjusted accordingly using appropriate transformations.

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