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Old Apr21-06, 11:26 PM                  #1
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Exterior derivative question

If I have a differential manifold, then I get the exterior derivative for free, that is, I dont have to impose any additional structure to my manifold.

However, this derivative is defined as an operator on forms. What makes the forms so special? Why doesn't a diff. manifold come with a derivative on covariant vectors? Or does it and I dont know about it?
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Old Apr21-06, 11:52 PM       Last edited by Hurkyl; Apr22-06 at 12:04 AM..            #2
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You get two other forms of differentiation for free:

For a vector field X and scalar field f, you have the scalar field X(f), the derivative f with respect to X.

For a pair of vector fields X and Y, you have the vector field [X, Y], the Lie derivative of Y with respect to X.



There is a dual to the exterior derivative, but it doesn't act on vector fields: it's the boundary operator on the curves/surfaces/etc of your manifold.
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Old Apr22-06, 12:26 AM       Last edited by Oxymoron; Apr22-06 at 12:33 AM..            #3
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Posted by Hurkyl

For a vector field X and scalar field f, you have the scalar field X(f), the derivative f with respect to X.
Yes, but luckily the scalar field is also a 0-form.

For the Lie derivative we need the Lie bracket structure, I was regarding that as extra structure, but I could be wrong about that. Actually, the Lie derivative is probably as close as we are going to get to a free derivative on vector fields without adding structure to the diff. manifold.

Apparently, the operator

LaTeX Code: \\theta^a\\wedge\\nabla_{X_a}

(where LaTeX Code: \\theta^a is the dual basis to the basis LaTeX Code: X_a and LaTeX Code: \\nabla is any torsion-free connection), is identical to the exterior derivative operator, d.

This interests me greatly, so I investigated. If something involving the wedge product, the connection, and a dual basis is identical to the exterior derivative, then I want to know how.

The exterior derivative obeys four axioms:

1. It maps p-forms to (p+1)-forms.
2. LaTeX Code: d(\\omega\\wedge\\phi) = d\\omega\\wedge\\phi + (-1)^p\\omega\\wedge d\\phi .
3. LaTeX Code: df(X) = Xf .
4. LaTeX Code: d\\circ d = 0 .

I did the first three without a problem, but I cant seem to show the fourth. That is, I cant seem to show that

LaTeX Code: (\\theta^a\\wedge\\nabla_{X_a})\\circ(\\theta^a\\wedge\\n  abla_{X_a}) =0

I know this sounds a lot like homework, but I want to continue the discussion after I understand this little problem.

I managed to get

LaTeX Code: =  \\theta^a\\theta^a \\wedge \\theta^a\\nabla_{X_a} \\wedge \\nabla_{X_a}\\theta^a \\wedge \\nabla_{X_a}\\nabla_{X_a}

but Im not sure where I can cancel and what equals zero.
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Old Apr22-06, 08:57 AM       Last edited by Hurkyl; Apr22-06 at 09:17 AM..            #4
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The Lie bracket isn't extra structure -- you do get it for free. You also get a Lie derivative of one-forms with respect to a vector field. (I don't yet have enough intuition to tell if you get a Lie derivative of any tensor W.R.T. a vector field for free)


Well, your first problem is that you're overworking your dummy indices.

LaTeX Code: (\\theta^a\\wedge\\nabla_{X_a})\\circ(\\theta^b\\wedge\\n  abla_{X_b}) =0

That's what you want.


What exactly is the action of that operator on your forms? Is it:

LaTeX Code: (\\theta^a \\wedge \\nabla_X_a)\\omega = \\theta^a \\wedge (\\nabla_X_a\\omega)

?

Your final expression makes me uneasy -- it looks like you just formally expanded it as if LaTeX Code: \\circ distributes over LaTeX Code: \\wedge , and dropped the LaTeX Code: \\circ 's. But I'm not sure that makes sense, at least directly... for example, does LaTeX Code: \\theta^a \\nabla_X_a make any sense, either on its own or in the context of the rest of the expression?


I think the right way to interpret it is to view LaTeX Code: \\theta^a \\wedge as an operator that takes a one form and produces: LaTeX Code: (\\theta^a \\wedge)(\\omega) = \\theta^a \\wedge \\omega . Then, you're trying to manipulate the expression involving the composition of four operators:

LaTeX Code: (\\theta^a \\wedge) \\nabla_X_a (\\theta^b \\wedge) \\nabla_X_b

to which you would simply apply the usual trick: for the operators A and B, figure out how (AB)(w)=A(B(w)) and (BA)(w)=B(A(w)) relate to each other to get an algebraic relationship for AB and BA in terms of each other.
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Old Apr22-06, 02:38 PM                  #5
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The Lie derivative is defined in terms of flows on a manifold. The fact that it is equal to the Lie bracket is a theorem that results from the definition. The most readable treatment I know of that doesn't get too bogged down in total rigour is Ted Frankel's "The Geometry of Physics." He also treats everything else you mention is excellent, practical detail. Another more careful treatment but one that is extremely readable is Munkres' "Analysis on Manifolds." Unfortunately, he doesn't cover Lie derivatives or differential geometry in general, but his treatment of integration of differential forms is outstanding.
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Old Apr23-06, 02:06 AM       Last edited by Oxymoron; Apr23-06 at 03:02 AM..            #6
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Posted by Hurkyl

What exactly is the action of that operator on your forms?
I honestly dont know, and the question does not explicitly state how this operator acts on forms. I guess your guess is as good as mine.

Posted by Hurkyl

But I'm not sure that makes sense, at least directly... for example, does make any sense, either on its own or in the context of the rest of the expression?
Well, what I wrote surely LaTeX Code: \\theta^a \\nabla_X_a does not make sense since LaTeX Code: \\nabla_X_a is an operator and its clearly not operating on anything.


The exterior derivative d is a map from the algebra of r-forms to r+1-forms.
The action of d on an r-form is defined by

LaTeX Code: d\\omega = \\frac{1}{r!}\\left(\\frac{\\partial}{\\partial x^{\\nu}}\\omega_{\\mu_1\\dots\\mu_r\\right)dx^{\\nu}\\wed  ge dx^{\\mu_1}\\wedge\\dots\\wedge dx^{\\mu_r}

Take some r-form of the form

LaTeX Code: \\omega = \\frac{1}{r!}\\omega_{\\mu_1\\dots\\mu_r}dx^{\\mu_1}\\wed  ge\\dots\\wedge dx^{\\mu_r}

Then the action of LaTeX Code: d^2 is simply

LaTeX Code: d^2\\omega = \\frac{1}{r!}\\left(\\frac{\\partial^2\\omega_{\\mu_1\\do  ts\\mu_r}}{\\partial x^{\\lambda}\\partial x^{\\nu}}\\right)dx^{\\lambda}\\wedge dx^{\\nu} \\wedge dx^{\\mu_1} \\wedge \\dots \\wedge dx^{\\mu_r}

which is just the action of d twice, first with nu indices and then with lambda indices. So d^2 on an r-form returns an r+2-form. But

LaTeX Code: \\frac{\\partial^2\\omega_{\\mu_1\\dots\\mu_r}}{\\partial x^{\\lambda}\\partial x^{\\nu}} = \\frac{\\partial^2\\omega_{\\mu_1\\dots\\mu_r}}{\\partial x^{\\nu}\\partial x^{\\lambda}}

because this term is symmetric with respect to LaTeX Code: \\lambda and LaTeX Code: \\nu from the properties of the partial derivative.

Furthermore,

LaTeX Code: dx^{\\lambda}\\wedge dx^{\\nu} = (-1)dx^{\\nu}\\wedge dx^{\\lambda}

is anti-symmetric.

This is all I know about the operator d^2. Im not sure how this proves LaTeX Code: d\\circ d = 0 tho. Any thoughts? I figured if I can understand how d^2 =0 then perhaps I can understand how this new operator is zero.
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Old Apr23-06, 09:21 AM       Last edited by Perturbation; Apr23-06 at 03:45 PM..            #7
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The components of the exterior derivative of a p-form are

LaTeX Code: \\left(d\\tilde{\\omega}\\right)_{ki\\cdots j}=\\partial_{[k}\\omega_{i\\cdots j]}

Where the square brackets denote anti-symmetrisation. The second exterior derivative is then

LaTeX Code: \\left[d\\left(d\\tilde{\\omega}\\right)\\right]_{lki\\cdots j}=\\partial_{[l}\\partial_{[k}\\omega_{i\\cdots j]]}

Here there is a double anti-symmetrisation. Now

LaTeX Code: \\left[d\\left(d\\tilde{\\omega}\\right)\\right]_{lki\\cdots j}=-\\partial_{[k}\\partial_{[l}\\omega_{i\\cdots j]]}

By antisymmetry. But partials commute so

LaTeX Code: \\left[d\\left(d\\tilde{\\omega}\\right)\\right]_{lki\\cdots j}=\\partial_{[l}\\partial_{[k}\\omega_{i\\cdots j]]}=-\\partial_{[l}\\partial_{[k}\\omega_{i\\cdots j]]}=0

For example, take the exterior derivative of a function f

LaTeX Code: (df)_i=\\partial_if

Which is a one-form. Now take the second exterior derivative

LaTeX Code: \\left[d(df)\\right]_{ji}=\\partial_j\\partial_if-\\partial_i\\partial_jf=0

By commutativity of partials.

[I've missed the (p+1) etc. multiples off the exterior derivatives because I couldn't be arsed to keep putting them, as they're irrelevant. The factorials are accounted for in the anti-symmetrisation brackets if you're not familar with that notation.]

Originally Posted by Oxymoron
LaTeX Code: d^2\\omega = \\frac{1}{r!}\\left(\\frac{\\partial^2\\omega_{\\mu_1\\do  ts\\mu_r}}{\\partial x^{\\lambda}\\partial x^{\\nu}}\\right)dx^{\\lambda}\\wedge dx^{\\nu} \\wedge dx^{\\mu_1} \\wedge \\dots \\wedge dx^{\\mu_r}
I'll show you what I've just said but including covariant bases as you're doing.

LaTeX Code: d^2\\omega = \\frac{1}{r!}\\left(\\frac{\\partial^2\\omega_{\\mu_1\\do  ts\\mu_r}}{\\partial x^{\\lambda}\\partial x^{\\nu}}\\right)dx^{\\lambda}\\wedge dx^{\\nu} \\wedge dx^{\\mu_1} \\wedge \\dots \\wedge dx^{\\mu_r}
LaTeX Code: = \\frac{1}{r!}\\left[\\left(\\frac{\\partial^2\\omega_{\\mu_1\\dots\\mu_r}}{\\p  artial x^{1}\\partial x^{2}}\\right)dx^{1}\\wedge dx^{2}+\\left(\\frac{\\partial^2\\omega_{\\mu_1\\dots\\mu  _r}}{\\partial x^{2}\\partial x^{1}}\\right)dx^{2}\\wedge dx^{1}+\\cdots \\right] \\wedge dx^{\\mu_1} \\wedge \\dots \\wedge dx^{\\mu_r}

But LaTeX Code: dx^{2}\\wedge dx^{1}=-dx^{1}\\wedge dx^{2} , so

LaTeX Code: \\frac{1}{r!}\\left[\\left(\\frac{\\partial^2\\omega_{\\mu_1\\dots\\mu_r}}{\\p  artial x^{1}\\partial x^{2}}\\right)dx^{1}\\wedge dx^{2} \\wedge dx^{\\mu_1}+\\left(\\frac{\\partial^2\\omega_{\\mu_1\\dot  s\\mu_r}}{\\partial x^{2}\\partial x^{1}}\\right)dx^{2}\\wedge dx^{1}+\\cdots \\right] \\wedge dx^{\\mu_1} \\wedge \\dots \\wedge dx^{\\mu_r}
LaTeX Code: = \\frac{1}{r!}\\left[\\left(\\frac{\\partial^2\\omega_{\\mu_1\\dots\\mu_r}}{\\p  artial x^{1}\\partial x^{2}}\\right)dx^{1}\\wedge dx^{2}-\\left(\\frac{\\partial^2\\omega_{\\mu_1\\dots\\mu_r}}{\\p  artial x^{2}\\partial x^{1}}\\right)dx^{1}\\wedge dx^{2}+\\cdots \\right] \\wedge dx^{\\mu_1} \\wedge \\dots \\wedge dx^{\\mu_r}

Partials commute so

LaTeX Code: \\frac{1}{r!}\\left[\\left(\\frac{\\partial^2\\omega_{\\mu_1\\dots\\mu_r}}{\\p  artial x^{1}\\partial x^{2}}\\right)dx^{1}\\wedge dx^{2}-\\left(\\frac{\\partial^2\\omega_{\\mu_1\\dots\\mu_r}}{\\p  artial x^{2}\\partial x^{1}}\\right)dx^{1}\\wedge dx^{2}+\\cdots \\right] \\wedge dx^{\\mu_1} \\wedge \\dots \\wedge dx^{\\mu_r}
LaTeX Code: = \\frac{1}{r!}\\left[\\left(\\frac{\\partial^2\\omega_{\\mu_1\\dots\\mu_r}}{\\p  artial x^{1}\\partial x^{2}}\\right)dx^{1}\\wedge dx^{2}-\\left(\\frac{\\partial^2\\omega_{\\mu_1\\dots\\mu_r}}{\\p  artial x^{1}\\partial x^{2}}\\right)dx^{1}\\wedge dx^{2}+\\cdots \\right] \\wedge dx^{\\mu_1} \\wedge \\dots \\wedge dx^{\\mu_r}=0

You had all that you needed, you just didn't put it together. Unless what you're actually asking is how one proves the operator identity LaTeX Code: d^2=0 . This follows from the above because d is defined by its operation on differential forms, so if it holds for a general p-form then one is allowed to just right the operator identity LaTeX Code: d^2=0 . Or it can be taken with the other properties of the exterior derivative that you gave as axioms which together uniquely determine the form of the exterior derivative operator, however I've not seen this proof, but I of know.
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