Proof That "Moderation" Is Meaningless: All Comments Welcome

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The discussion revolves around the concept of "moderation" and its perceived meaninglessness in various contexts, such as food, alcohol, exercise, and sleep. Participants are invited to critique a proof presented by the original poster that argues against the validity of the phrase "in moderation."

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Main Points Raised

  • The original poster presents a proof claiming that the phrase "in moderation" is meaningless, inviting feedback on this assertion.
  • One participant humorously suggests that the original poster needs to apply moderation in their proofs, implying a critique of the proof's reasoning.
  • Another participant proposes an alternative view, advocating for extremes rather than moderation, suggesting that one cannot have too much of a good thing.
  • A later reply echoes the original poster's sentiment, arguing that the phrase "do everything in moderation" is nonsensical due to the arbitrary nature of defining "too much" and "too little."

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the validity and meaning of the phrase "in moderation." There is no consensus on whether the original proof is sound or whether moderation holds any meaningful value.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the ambiguity in defining what constitutes "too much" or "too little," indicating that the discussion is limited by subjective interpretations of moderation.

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Hello. I'd be curious to know what you all think about my proof that the phrase "in moderation" is so often meaningless.

How many times have you heard someone say, “Moderation in all things“, “Take everything in moderation”, or “X is fine, but in moderation”? Replace X with anything you like: food, alcohol, exercise, sleep, etc. I will now prove to you why this statement is completely meaningless.

The rest of the proof is http://www.erik-rasmussen.com/blog/2006/08/23/moderation-proof/".

All comments welcome. Cheers!
 
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Looks to me like you need to learn moderation in application of proofs. :approve:

To be truly moderate in all things you cannot be excessively moderate.
 
Seek not the golden mean, but rather the golden extreme. After all, by similar means you can prove that you can't get too much of a good thing.
 
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rasman said:
Hello. I'd be curious to know what you all think about my proof that the phrase "in moderation" is so often meaningless.



The rest of the proof is http://www.erik-rasmussen.com/blog/2006/08/23/moderation-proof/".

All comments welcome. Cheers!
Nice proof. I do hate it when my exam grades turn out terribly high! :biggrin:

The thing, in my opinion, that makes that statement not a tautology is the decision of which things lie in the set of "so often" things, and which do not.
 
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Gokul43201 said:
The thing, in my opinion, that makes that statement not a tautology is the decision of which things lie in the set of "so often" things, and which do not.
What I meant by "so often" was "almost always if not always". "Do everything in moderation" is just a phrase that means "don't stuff too much or too little", which is an idiotic thing to say, especially when the "too much" and "too little" thresholds are completely arbitrary.
 

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