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| May26-04, 03:25 AM | #1 |
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Factoring problem that has me stumped!
Given:
[tex] s(t) = 1/2t^3-5t^2+3t+6 [/tex] I'm trying to find all values of t where s(t) = -30 My first thought is to solve for 0 hence: [tex] 1/2t^3-5t^2+3t+36=0 [/tex] I know the answers are t=4 and t=8.196 but I can't get to it...I'm assuming I need to factor this down but I'm can't see it. Any help/hints would be most appreciated as I've been banging my head against a brick wall for some time now... |
| May26-04, 03:29 AM | #2 |
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You know that 4 is a root of the polynomial in your last equation.
Use polynomial division to compete the factoring. |
| May26-04, 02:55 PM | #3 |
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As above, but divide (x-4) into 1/2t^3-5t^2+3t+36
Then when you get the second polynomial use the quadratic solution to get t=8.196 |
| May28-04, 05:28 AM | #4 |
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Factoring problem that has me stumped!
Thanks for the hints - reading up on polynomial division (which I wasn't familiar with) I have found that the factors are:
[tex] (t-4)(1/2t^2-3t-9) [/tex] However, (and I realise I'm getting slightly off topic here) how would I even arrive at (t-4) being one of the original factors. Using GCF I can easily see that: [tex] (t)(1/2t^2-5t+3)+36 = 0 [/tex] But the jump to t-4 has got me stumped! Any pointers to threads/websites on factoring polynomials/finding roots of polynomials would be most appreciated. |
| May28-04, 08:19 AM | #5 |
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I believe Fermat developed various techniques in order to make good, reasoned guesses for the roots of polynomials.
However, when meeting a polynomial in a textbook that you don't immediately recognize the roots of, remember that the constant term is the product of the roots. Therefore, one way of arriving at 4 as a root is to examine the integer factors of 36, and see which of these (if any!) might be a root. |
| May30-04, 11:22 AM | #6 |
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putting the equation equal to -30 u can make a cubic equation which will be then easy to solve for
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| May30-04, 02:58 PM | #7 |
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Use descarte's rule of signs to find the nature of the roots (positive, negative, or complex).
After that take X minus all factors (positive and negative) of the coefficient of the highest degree of your variable over the factors of your constant. 3X^3 + 5X^2 - 2X + 8 =0 so your possible (real) factors are going to be (3/8), (3/4), (3/2), 3, (1/8), (1/4), (1/2), 1 and their inverses. Well, now you're left with 14 possible roots, you can a) try them all algorithmically, or b) apply some heuristics. Graph the polynomial (preferably on a calculator) and look at which of the roots seem to be true (where the funtion intersects the X-Axis)--After that, try each of your roots until you find the root you're looking for. Divide the equation by your new-found root and find the other two from your quadratic. Hope I helped. |
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