Difference between any two odd numbers is even

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The discussion revolves around whether there is a formal law or theorem stating that the difference between any two odd numbers is even, as well as the difference between two even numbers. Participants explore the implications of these statements and related concepts, including the sum of odd primes.

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  • Some participants question if there is a formal theorem regarding the difference between two odd numbers being even.
  • Others assert that it is trivially obvious that the difference between two odd numbers is even, providing informal reasoning.
  • A participant presents a proof using algebraic expressions for odd numbers, demonstrating that the difference can be expressed as an even number.
  • There is a discussion about the sum of odd primes, with some participants noting that while the sum is even, the broader implications related to the Goldbach Conjecture remain unproven.
  • One participant challenges the clarity of terms used in discussing the sum of odd primes, emphasizing the need for precision in mathematical language.
  • Another participant humorously reflects on the discussion, suggesting that the thread may have been initiated with a clever line in mind.
  • There is a mention of the relationship between even numbers and their representation as sums of primes, which is noted to be less obvious and unproven.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the difference between two odd numbers is even, but there is no formal consensus on the existence of a specific theorem. The discussion about the sum of odd primes and its implications remains contested, with differing views on clarity and proof.

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Some statements rely on informal reasoning and may lack formal proof. The discussion includes various interpretations of mathematical terms and concepts, which could lead to misunderstandings.

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Is there a law or theorem somewhere that states the difference between any two odd numbers is even? Or the difference between 2 even numbers is even?
 
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It's trivially obvious. Why do you ask?
 
Well its also trivially obvious that the sum of any two odd primes yields an even integer over 4, yet that has not been proven yet. I just wanted to make sure that these were because someone keeps telling me they aren't. Luckily in the meanwhile I came up with my own proof for them, so it is all good.
 
Let m= 2n+1
Let r= 2s+1

r and m are arbitrary odd numbers(1 greated then an even number)

so
r+m = (2n +1)+ (2s+1)= 2n+2s+2 = 2(n+s+1)

r+m is even.
QED
You can do something similar for 2 even numbers.
 
Yes that is the proofs I came up with...different notation but same message.
 
Well its also trivially obvious that the sum of any two odd primes yields an even integer over 4, yet that has not been proven yet.

What's not trivially obvious is what you MEAN by "an even integer over 4". If you mean, literally, "an even integer divided by 4" then it doesn't make sense because the sum of two odd primes certainly has to be an INTEGER, not a half. If you mean "divisible by 4" then it's not true: 3+ 7= 10.
The fact that the sum of two odd PRIMES is even is "trivially obvious" because the sum of two odd numbers is always even. That certainly has been proven, in fact, I've seen it given as an exercise in high-school algebra texts.
 
I forgot that mathematicians need to be exact here.

Every even integer greater than 4 is the sum of two odd primes.

It is indeed obvious the sum of any two odd primes is even (after all, they are just special odd numbers), but that seems to be obvious as well at first glance, but not proven. It is, after all, the Goldbach Conjecture.
 
It is indeed obvious the sum of any two odd primes is even
Actually, the sum of ANY two odd numbers is an even number (wether they are primes or not).
Look at integral's proof.
Is there a law or theorem somewhere that states the difference between any two odd numbers is even?
You can adjust Integral's proof to proove this.
Let A be an odd number, B another odd number
A = 2k + 1
B = 2n + 1
(where both k and n are integers)
A - B = (2k + 1) - (2n + 1) = 2k-2n + (1-1) = 2(k+n)
Since k and n are integers, k+n is an integer too, and A-B is even (since it can be expressed as 2*integer).
 
Merci
 
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Originally posted by Brad_Ad23
Merci

LOL

"It is, after all, the Goldbach Conjecture," is a great line.
I suspect that you set up this thread with that line
in mind from the start
in order to have an opportunity to deliver it.

Perhaps I'm easily amused today but find it difficult
to stop chuckling at this thread.
 
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Hehe, I wish I was ingenious enough to have that planned from the start. The actual purpose was to make sure my arguments were correct. Of course the sum of any two odd primes will be even since the sum of any two odds is even. As I then explained to my friend, the other way...all even numbers are the sum of two primes, is much less obvious and so far not proven.
 
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Originally posted by Brad_Ad23
Is there a law or theorem somewhere that states the difference between any two odd numbers is even? Or the difference between 2 even numbers is even?

The difference between the number êÄ and the number Ç{ is DEFINITELY ODD (don't you think?)
 

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