Relative velocity of perpendicular vectors

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The discussion focuses on understanding the relative velocity of a boat in a river current. It clarifies that the boat's velocity with respect to the ground can be calculated by adding the boat's velocity relative to the water and the water's velocity relative to the ground. The confusion arises when trying to determine the boat's velocity concerning the river's current, especially when the boat is moving with the current. The conversation emphasizes the importance of clearly defining the reference points for velocity measurements. Ultimately, the key question remains about accurately determining the boat's velocity in relation to the current.
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Using this diagram as an example
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/231/diagramig.jpg
would I be right in assuming that the relative velocity of the boat with respect to the velocity of the current is the speed at which its moving away from say a stone floating down the river? In other words the resultant vector?
 
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I think you mean:

Is the velocity of the boat with respect to the ground = the velocity of the boat with respect to the water + the velocity of the water with respect to the ground.

If that's what you mean, then yes.
 
It didn't make any sense what I was describing there did it. What I was trying to describe was something more like the relative velocity of the river with respect to someone jumping over the river but the resultant vector in that case would be the opposite direction. What I'm really wondering is what's the boats velocity with respect to the rivers current? Since the boats moving with the rivers current is relative velocity between the two vectors in this case meaningless? I can see the image of the boat crossing the river in my head its just the idea of relative velocity that has me confused. I suppose in this case its no different than someone canoeing across a frozen river meaning the rivers velocity can be neglected.
 
BogMonkey said:
What I'm really wondering is what's the boats velocity with respect to the rivers current?
You mean the boat's velocity with respect to the water? What data are you given? You gave the boat's velocity (in the y-direction). What was that respect to? The ground? Use the formula I gave--in words--in my last post.
 
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