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| Sep22-10, 01:59 PM | #1 |
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Convergent sequences: if {an} converges and {an + bn} converges, prove {bn} converges
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
Suppose {an}n=1∞ and {bn}n=1∞ are sequences such that {an}n=1∞ and {an + bn }n=1∞ converge. Prove that {bn}n=1∞ converges. 2. Relevant equations The definition of convergence. 3. The attempt at a solution I am pretty new to mathematics that requires proof, so excuse me if I do something really stupid... but basically, is this a sufficient proof? 1. Assume {an}n=1∞ converges to A (by hypothesis). Then for ε/2 > 0 there is a positive integer N1 such that if n ≥ N1, then |an - A| < ε/2.2. Assume that {an + bn }n=1∞ converges to A + B (by hypothesis). Then for ε > 0 there is a positive integer N = max{N1, N2} such that if n ≥ N, then | (an + bn) - (A + B) | < ε3. | (an + bn) - (A + B) | = | (an - A) + (bn - B) | < ε 4. Since by hypothesis |an - A| < ε/2, then | (an - A) - (an - A) + (bn - B) | < ε - ε/25. But this is the definition of convergence, therefore {bn}n=1∞ converges (to B). □ Thanks. |
| Sep22-10, 03:29 PM | #2 |
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You never actually say what N2 is.
Also, if a+b<e and a<e/2 that doesn't give you that b<e/2, so I'm not sure where that final inequality comes from. Subtracting [tex]|a_n-A|[/tex] from the left hand side does not allow you to just move it inside the absolute value sign; and subtracting |a_n-A| from the right hand side, you can't replace it with [tex]\epsilon/2[/tex] and maintain the same inequality, since that makes the right hand side smaller, not larger As a fast way to see a lot of results like this, once you have the standard summation and multiplication rules, you can use [tex]b_n=(a_n+b_n)-a_n[/tex] and use what you know about the summation of sequences |
| Sep22-10, 03:37 PM | #3 |
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There's a problem in step 4 of the attempt. It doesn't follow from
| (an - A) + (bn - B) | < ε that | (an - A) - (an - A) + (bn - B) | < ε - ε/2 It's like saying |1-1.9|=0.9 < 1 so |1-1-1.9| < 1-1=0. |
| Sep22-10, 04:22 PM | #4 |
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Convergent sequences: if {an} converges and {an + bn} converges, prove {bn} converges
This looks okay, why not look at the algebra of limits? if [tex]a_{n}+b_{n}\rightarrow b}[/tex] and [tex]a_{n}\rightarrow a[/tex] then the sequence [tex]b_{n}=a_{n}+b_{n}-a_{n}\rightarrow b-a[/tex]
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| Sep23-10, 12:03 PM | #5 |
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Thanks everyone. I'm clearly missing something in the understanding of this material, so I'll take what you've said this weekend and dig through the book and see if I can spot the misunderstanding.
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