Why would density increase when Poisson's ratio > 0.5?

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Density increases when Poisson's ratio exceeds 0.5 due to the relationship between volume change and strain in materials. When Poisson's ratio is less than 0.5, volume decreases during compression, leading to an increase in density, contrary to initial assumptions. For a Poisson ratio of 0.5, the volumetric strain sums to zero, indicating no volume change. Confusion arises when calculations suggest volume changes at this ratio, which contradicts lecture notes. Understanding the implications of Poisson's ratio on volumetric strain is crucial for accurate density assessments in tension and compression scenarios.
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Does anyone understand why density would increase when the poisson ratio is greater than 0.5 as indicated in this slide from my professor:

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Does this density increase apply to a system undergoing tension or compression or both?
 
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You have to think about what Poisson's ration means ... how does a compression affect volume for different Poisson's Ratios?
 
Simon Bridge said:
You have to think about what Poisson's ration means ... how does a compression affect volume for different Poisson's Ratios?

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Alright so here calculated what the volume change would be for when Poisson's ratio < 0.5. It told me that the volume would decrease which implies that the density increases. But according to the lecture notes this is not true. Instead when the ratio is < 0.5 the density decreases...

Note: I also calculated for the volume when Poisson's ratio = 0.5, which according to the notes there should be no volume change. But in my calculations I found there is a volume change...

What am I doing wrong?
 
theBEAST said:
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Alright so here calculated what the volume change would be for when Poisson's ratio < 0.5. It told me that the volume would decrease which implies that the density increases. But according to the lecture notes this is not true. Instead when the ratio is < 0.5 the density decreases...

Note: I also calculated for the volume when Poisson's ratio = 0.5, which according to the notes there should be no volume change. But in my calculations I found there is a volume change...

What am I doing wrong?

Let a bar be stretched by εx. For a Poisson ratio of 0.5, the strains in the y and z directions are:

εy=-0.5 εx

εz=-0.5 εx

The volumetric strain is the sum of the three linear strains, and is equal to zero.

Same problem with Poisson ratio = 0.3

εx + εy + εz = 0.4 εx

So the volume increases, and the density decreases when a bar is stretched under tension and the material has a Poisson ratio of <0.5
 
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