How Does Water Pressure Change Inside a Spinning Test Tube?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the pressure in a spinning test tube filled with water, specifically deriving the pressure formula P = (1/2)rho*ω²(r² - r₀²) while ignoring gravity and atmospheric pressure. The user attempts to understand the integration limits when defining radial and vertical axes for pressure calculations. It is clarified that when changing the axis direction, the direction of the gravitational field must also be adjusted accordingly. The confusion arises when applying this reasoning to a pressure versus water depth scenario, where the user expects a positive result despite integrating with a negative gravitational acceleration. Understanding the relationship between axis direction and field direction is crucial for accurate pressure calculations.
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Homework Statement


A test tube filled with water is being spun around in an ultra centrifuge with angular velocity ω. The test tube is lying along a radius, and the free surface of the water is at a radius r0.

(a) Show that the pressure at radius r within the test tube is P = (1/2)rho*ω2(r2-r02). Ignore gravity and atmospheric pressure


Homework Equations


dP= -ρgdz


The Attempt at a Solution


Since the test tube is undergoing circular motion, and the water within the test the test tube lies at a varying radius from center, the acceleration (g) is given by a=(v2)/r = ω2r

So dP = -ρgdz = -ρω2rdr

P= -(1/2)ρω2r2 from r to r0

I think that much is fine, and this gives me the correct answer... But, here is where my understanding is hazy. If I define r to be increasing radially from center, then it is my understanding that my lower bound should be r and my upper to be r0.

Here's my question: If I define an axis to be increasing in one direction, then should I always integrate from the lower value to higher?

If I use this same reasoning with a simple pressure vs. water depth example then I run into trouble. If I want to find the pressure at a depth of 30m and I define my z axis to be increasing upwards then it seems to me the integral should look like this:

dP = ∫-ρgdz from -30 to 0 = -ρg(0 - -30) = -ρg*30

But the answer should be positive!

Any help would be much appreciated
 
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In the formula you have used, the gravitational acceleration is pointing in the negative z direction. If you change the direction of the axis, then you must also change the direction of the field.
 
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